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Dadai.2
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Re:Brace for Impact
Sunday, January 29 2017 @ 10:10 AM CST

This guy, no Trump lover and one who opposes the ban, helps explain why only these seven countries are in the ban. As Johnny Carson used to say, "I did not know that!"

https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/

smug moral posturing & virtue signaling? nope...
particledots
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Re:Brace for Impact
Sunday, January 29 2017 @ 10:48 AM CST

snowdragon
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Re:Brace for Impact
Sunday, January 29 2017 @ 10:53 AM CST

Quote by: Dadai.2
This guy, no Trump lover and one who opposes the ban, helps explain why only these seven countries are in the ban. As Johnny Carson used to say, "I did not know that!"

https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/



That was a fascinating read Jack. I spent the entire morning clicking through links and learned a lot.

For example, I didn't realize that Jimmy Carter signed one on his first day granting amnesty to Viet Nam "draft dodgers" (no offence intended, I've known many of them over the years) and that Lincoln signed one too . . . The Emancipation Proclamation.

When philosophy and reality collide, reality wins, Snow Gretzky
Dadai.2
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Re:Brace for Impact
Sunday, January 29 2017 @ 01:19 PM CST

One of the top conservative legal thinkers dismantles Trump's executive order. I agree with his analysis. He ends with an encouragement to those opposed to Trump's agenda.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/01/29/president-trump-may-hire-only-the-best-people-but-he-did-not-rely-upon-them-to-draft-and-implement-his-latest-executive-order/?utm_term=.aca7636fb7c6

smug moral posturing & virtue signaling? nope...
Dadai.2
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Re:Brace for Impact
Sunday, January 29 2017 @ 01:46 PM CST

Quote by: particledots
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3T_Q9rUEAAdeCu.jpg:large



I know, a bit scary...

Btw, here is an article that makes it clear why these seven nations were the ones singled out. Apparently Obama signed into law the legal basis designating these particular countries for an action like this.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/01/29/news-bulletin-the-list-of-muslim-nations-in-trumps-socalled-muslim-ban-are-ones-obama-choose-n2278021

smug moral posturing & virtue signaling? nope...
particledots
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Re:Brace for Impact
Sunday, January 29 2017 @ 09:48 PM CST

Quote by: Dadai.2
Quote by: particledots
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3T_Q9rUEAAdeCu.jpg:large



I know, a bit scary...

Btw, here is an article that makes it clear why these seven nations were the ones singled out. Apparently Obama signed into law the legal basis designating these particular countries for an action like this.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/01/29/news-bulletin-the-list-of-muslim-nations-in-trumps-socalled-muslim-ban-are-ones-obama-choose-n2278021



so it is obama's fault then.....?

errrrm.....OK
Dadai.2
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Re:Brace for Impact
Sunday, January 29 2017 @ 10:11 PM CST

Quote by: particledots
Quote by: Dadai.2
Quote by: particledots
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3T_Q9rUEAAdeCu.jpg:large



I know, a bit scary...

Btw, here is an article that makes it clear why these seven nations were the ones singled out. Apparently Obama signed into law the legal basis designating these particular countries for an action like this.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/01/29/news-bulletin-the-list-of-muslim-nations-in-trumps-socalled-muslim-ban-are-ones-obama-choose-n2278021



so it is obama's fault then.....?

errrrm.....OK



Errrm, no. It's Trump's EO, but it's only an extension of the law Obama signed which designated those seven countries as terror threats in the first place and the same kind of EO that Obama did when he banned all refugees from Iraq for a period of 6 months in 2011 because of a perceive terror threat. In other words Trump's EO has legal roots in Obama's signed law and precedent in Obama's Iraq ban. Pro or con though, it's Trump's decision.

smug moral posturing & virtue signaling? nope...
particledots
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Re:Brace for Impact
Sunday, January 29 2017 @ 11:11 PM CST

Dadai.2
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Re:Brace for Impact
Monday, January 30 2017 @ 02:44 PM CST

Irony alert...

The bĂȘte noir of the Left coming to the rescue? Washington Post story lays it out...

I'd be curious as to what our Left-leaning members think about receiving the Koch's help to dismantle Trumpism?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/koch-network-poised-for-new-role--as-the-conservative-resistance-to-trump/2017/01/30/7750ef02-e67c-11e6-bf6f-301b6b443624_story.html?utm_term=.c1cee93dc6ac

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einstien
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Re:Brace for Impact
Monday, January 30 2017 @ 07:48 PM CST