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Vic Holman

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This is my entry to the LIOLI #4.

I would like to thank Bud for motivating me to attempt this. If it really sucks please point your finger at him. Totally kidding Bud.

I decided to play off the train sounds. Abstractly i created the crowd boarding and the train ride.

I had a older tune that had been posted way back when. It was among a bunch others I dumped during a spring clean out, also sometime ago. I almost forgot about it until this came about. i was able to use parts of it plus added/subtrated and build from it as well. The train clips should be self evident.

Plus, i emulated a lot of train sounds on guitars as well.

The loop that is required. i turned into the crowd and female voices also a deep train sound thats goes by every now and then. In addition the some other noises going on.

I also added some synth playing for the heck of it.

Train sound effects courtesy of:
The Freesound Project (http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/samplesViewSingle.php?id=25068
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Uploaded: May 23, 2007 - 08:53:42 PM
Last Updated: May 23, 2007 - 08:53:42 PM Last Played: Jan 10, 2015 - 01:03:26 PM
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Railroad Stuff, You know metal, steam, electricity and an engineers cap
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michael2 said 3627 days ago (May 23rd, 2007)
vic
this is rad, it's also totally unlike you. i love it. who knew you were such the loop master. it's almost like a scene in TJ Hooker, when they are looking for info from an informant who hangs out in a bikini bar. awesome.
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Vic Holman said 3627 days ago (May 23rd, 2007)
damn
your right, i need a bikini bar in this. well maybe the next loop it contest. I figured this may come as a bit of a shock. Theres stuff i do that doesn't get posted or I never got a round to finishing. All in fun!

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said 3627 days ago (May 23rd, 2007)
wow
vic - am waaaay impressed - that was a pleasure to witness. you set up a really cool mood. loved the panned burst of steam accents thru-out. are you saying the piano loop is in this but you're using other voices? this is very creative. you always have nifty graphics, too. bravo, brother!
anne
Vic Holman said 3627 days ago (May 23rd, 2007)
Thanks Anne
The voices was the piano loop. I also hacked it up for single voice hits. the loop was also used for the passing rumble swoosh as well and a few other effected noises. Oddly i was originally going to do a r&b thing.

Thanks for listening. Appreciate it!

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bud said 3627 days ago (May 23rd, 2007)
Man this is cool
really dig the vibe - what a great beat you've cooked up - and the textures are outrageous. I'm really happy you hopped on the train.
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Vic Holman said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
Got you to thank...
for me attempting something. I'm glad you picked a locomotive sound bite to use. that influenced me and i could see the possibilties to play off of it!

Really glad you dug. Ended up being a lot of fun!

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VicDiesel said 3627 days ago (May 23rd, 2007)
Did someone say "Diesel" powered?!
Ok, this tune grooves like crazy. That's good. And you're using compressed air for drums. That's really good. And it has a screaming guitar solo. What more could one want?

Very nice stuff, with great textures.
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Vic Holman said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
!!!!!
Funny, for that you get the engineer cap. Of course it's been kicked around of adding a bikini bar.

Thanks Vic. I appreciate your listen!

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said 3627 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
Techno Soundtrack
Like Michael mentioned, this sounds different from what we've heard from you before, which is cool. I understand about the backlog of stuff that isn't finished.
So what's the light at the end of the tunnel? :)
I bet I dream of trains tonight.
Vic Holman said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
You know
how you listen to inatimate things and hear a rythm or sound that sets you off? the train sound bite told me.

At the end of the tunnel I think we will be serving steamed clams and hot lava worms at the bikini bar back in the caboose. Thanks Bill.

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DeputyDoofy said 3627 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
Wow
You definitely took this tune in a way different direction. One of my favs indeed.

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Vic Holman said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
Thanks D.D.
I was lost at the beginning on what to do until i heard my train a comin'. I'm not one to do loops. But i was fortunate enough to rethink it in a different context.

Really appreciate you climbing on board for the ride.

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Mcboy said 3627 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
woo hoo....
bladerunner hopping into a train........chasing that android........and making love to her or kicking her butt.....hehhehhe....nice soundscape for the fuzz solo.........kool.....
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Vic Holman said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
Thanks McBoy!
I'll decide what to do about the female android when I see her in good light first. Then we can all meet up at the bikini bar. It's always fun to emulate different objects on guitars.

Appreciate your riding along!

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said 3627 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
Loads of fun!
Wow! What a surprize! This really does sound anthemic. I think I agree with Michael2's TJ Hooker comment...But you should be careful about adding a bikini bar...it might not mix well with those frequent blasts of steam!

Be well bro!
Vic Holman said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
It was a fun diversion
Come on Mike, you want the bikini bar just like everyone else. We can also sit in the baggage car and play guitars like the beatles did in a hard days night. Theres a lot of train songs we could play :-)

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echoroom said 3627 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
All aboard!
great stuff Vic - the guitars sound awesome on this, and the production is great - i love the panned steam bursts on this. This is really different for you, but a fantastic track - the guitar playing is some of your best yet. sexy and funky - what's the address of that bikini bar?

Steve
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Vic Holman said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
Thanks Steve
I just decide to play like a train. And just imagined going on a ride. Theres a lot of wierd things that i've done but never finished or posted. The train sound bite got me rolling down the right track.

The bikini bar has been added in the back. It's being decked out in a 1940's hawaiin theme. That means a lot of umbrella drinks!

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said 3627 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
Wow...
I always suspected that steam engines would have fit into Blade Runner... the relentless beat that hammers away underneath it all is really moves the mood. And that guitar...

Awesome ride, Vic. Sinister and overcrowded, steam hammers, androids and hell, yeah, a bikini bar!
Vic Holman said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
I thought like a train
Just listened to you song. really enjoyed it. guitars and trains go together. I originally was going to do something based on the loop but the train sound track spoke to me.

And yes a bikini bar in the caboose!

Thanks Rik!

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The Infinites said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
I'm beggining to think..
...my effort is sh*t compared to this (and others).

Brilliant, dude!

Jim
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Vic Holman said 3626 days ago (May 25th, 2007)
i beg to differ
i thought yours was pretty cool. But your also welcome to join everyone in the bikini bar!

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thoddi said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
those graphics
Is that you in illustrator making those cool pics you have for your songs? I dig that style.

Oh yeah, the music..:)
Cool train music, and tasty put together. Nice fuzz train groove from the guitars. Could be a cool soundtrack to some action movie...
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Vic Holman said 3625 days ago (May 25th, 2007)
the graphics
is in part some retro line art. to start off with then i just add or change in photoshop. sometimes they are original from start i use freehand though. the head on this guy i picked up.

fuzzy guitars are alway warm. Thanks for listeniing Thor

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thoddi said 3625 days ago (May 25th, 2007)
freehand...
I've used freehand for years, but have changed to illustrator after adobe sort of took over macromedia and stuff. Do they still develop new versions of freehand?

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Imagination is more important then knowledge!
- Albert Einstein.
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Vic Holman said 3625 days ago (May 25th, 2007)
freehand
they haven't done nothing since the buyout. They don't promote it either. so who knows what they plan on doing. I've used since version 1 and use it everyday at work. It will be a sore day if it is dropped

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SmokeyVW said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
most excellent
holy cow! this is way intense - it has all the power that a locomotive symbolizes!

i'd say Industrial if someone forced me to pick a genre - yet there are lots of other influences in here too

those voices sounds are freaky - and the guitar work is just right

most excellent!!!

thanks

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Vic Holman said 3625 days ago (May 25th, 2007)
Thanks Smokey
I knew i could play off the train sound track. so i took that route. those voices where the piano loop run through a different synth. and jst add some bangin and clangign on the guitars before i knew it the trpi was over

Thanks for giving it a listen

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Kren said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
Rock the Train!!!
Don't Rock the Train Baby!!!

No This is great!!!!

vEry cool!!
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Vic Holman said 3625 days ago (May 25th, 2007)
Thanks Kren
Please rock this train. it's meant to be rocked off the tracks,

Thanks for the listen. I appreciate it!

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Dj French Toast said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
wow
I love the layerz and the voices are creepy . Your use of the train is cool ! I dig it mucho ....good stuff indeed!
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Vic Holman said 3625 days ago (May 25th, 2007)
Thanks DJ
Myself I like a lot of layering. kind of weaving things in and out. the train track is what got my attention and i new i could emulate a lot of train noises on guitars as well. definately fun!

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Norman Goodman said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
Very imaginative
I enjoyed this, was kind of out there... and thats okay very intriguing listen. Thought the guitar solos and accompanying sections were excellent. quite a departure from what I have heard of yours yet the same signatures of your style are there. Well done!
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Vic Holman said 3625 days ago (May 25th, 2007)
Thanks Norman
Usually i have little snippets of some odd guitar stuff in the songs. This one gave me a little more room to color it a bit different and use some tricks that didn't have to be in a song context. This tends to be a bit more of what i do when I'm just playing around.

Thanks again, totally loved your new song that's posted.

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said 3626 days ago (May 24th, 2007)
Hey
Nice one, Vic! The mix sounds absolutely killer! I just added a sub to my rig- what a great tune to try it out on!

I wish I had more free time to work on my entry for LIOLI 4, but work really got in the way this round.
Vic Holman said 3625 days ago (May 25th, 2007)
Hey Back
Heck Mike, I was actually looking forward to hear something from you on this. There should be laws about working getting in the way of fun stuff. Maybe on the next one I could help you out in some way if your bogged down.

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DWL said 3626 days ago (May 25th, 2007)
Great fun :-)
I thought the lyrics needed a bit of work.

Love the Isley Bros solo.

Nice to hear something different.

Cheers

Dick

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Vic Holman said 3625 days ago (May 25th, 2007)
real funny Dick
Do you think i should take out a line or two? :-)

You're right the tone on the solo does remind me also of "who's that lady". I may have used a Big Muff setting through my pedal board.

And look who's talking about doing something different. Thanks Dick!

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Ed Hannifin said 3625 days ago (May 26th, 2007)
Post industrial psychedelic train time!
Yeah... that sounds like we could blame a Big Muff for some of that...

I love the sustain-y solo. I hope you tied some scarves to your arms and legs before playing...

Great rhythmic underpinning in the 'sounds' and the bass-line... ties it all together...

This is a fun one, Vic... Headphone heaven...

Ed
Vic Holman said 3624 days ago (May 26th, 2007)
industrial psychedelia
theres a new gendre! I still have a big muff i bought back in '74. but it's way to noisy to record with.

When don't i wear those scarves. But, a box fan is also required for the whole blowing in the wind effect. Also standing on a stack of Marshall amps hieghtens the experience as well. This was really fun to play around with.

Thanks Ed!

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said 3624 days ago (May 26th, 2007)
Holie WHat the!!
MAn took me off guard... Totaly sucked into this one... This is a great work of music top notch all the way. Holie!!!!!
Vic Holman said 3624 days ago (May 26th, 2007)
Hey E.B.!
This actually came together pretty fast. around three days. the hard part was waiting for ten days to post it. I had some really stranger pats that i ended deleting.

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announcer said 3624 days ago (May 26th, 2007)
neo industrial tribal music
That's how I would describe this. A wonderful combination of industrial might, textural voices assembled in an almost tribal-inspired style of chanting, and the cries of human anquish expressed by the screaming guitar .... or to put it another way ... this song kicks a**.
Good stuff
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Vic Holman said 3624 days ago (May 26th, 2007)
Thanks Bill
Thats a cool gendre label. Actually i had no idea what it should go under. It was fun to let loose on this.

I still haven't seen your entry yet. i was sure you'ld be in on it.

Thanks again fo listening!

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announcer said 3624 days ago (May 27th, 2007)
No entry this time
I was really busy with other things when the LIOLI came up this time around so I don't have an entry in this round. I have some stuff I have posted that I put together over the last month and a half some of which started before that as other pieces but I have not done that much from scratch lately.
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timothy devine said 3624 days ago (May 26th, 2007)
Hi vic
Diggin it.
Nice work. I suspect a lot of messing round with the nobs and buttons on this one.
The guitar playing is very happening.
I like the fuzz fx
nice rhythms using the train sounds
well done
original loop is hard to ID...
thats a complement
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Vic Holman said 3624 days ago (May 27th, 2007)
heya Tim
Yeah some knob and dials got the treatment here. I had some parts that i deleted, they where really off the wall. i had a voice turn into a slide whistle, funny sounding but over the top. the loop i used with a couple different synths and hacked up parts of that as well.

i appreciate you giving it a listen. it was a fun project to take on.

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bronco said 3622 days ago (May 29th, 2007)
Whoa!
I wouldn't want to get in the way of this train. Lot going on here. I like your guitar as usual. Exellent job there! I like all the different synth and percussion sounds too. Maybe just too many of them going at once for my somewhat aging ears.
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Vic Holman said 3621 days ago (May 29th, 2007)
thanks Tom
we're all getting aged ears. on this on i thought i'ld let it all hang out.

Thanks again for riding the Vic express!

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chikoppi said 3620 days ago (May 31st, 2007)
You've been gone too long when the bullet hits the bone
There's always something happening at this station. You've given every moment of this song some detail to capture the listener's attention. This is like a marriage between Golden Earring (definitely a "Twilight Zone" vibe) and Skinny Puppy. Great opening moments and the thumping bass nails the rhythm right to the floor. Nice use of the synth voices to create transitions in the song even where the rhythm remains constant. Love the effected guitar solos!
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Vic Holman said 3619 days ago (May 31st, 2007)
thanks!
i figured i could go all out as long as i had that bottom going steady. really was a fun one to play with. kinda like a kid playing with a train set.

Thanks for the time out to listen!


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DJ WERD said 3609 days ago (June 10th, 2007)
neeto bageeto
very different, i love different. great work on the synths!
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Vic Holman said 3609 days ago (June 10th, 2007)
thanks much
since it was a lioli with a train loop. i figured i might as well make a bigger train wreck out of it :-)

Thanks for the listen!

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JohnnyCalling said 3589 days ago (July 1st, 2007)
Definitely should win
It's really cool!! Kinda sounds Bon Jovi-ish at the beginning, then it turns into a tv show song hahaha like michael2 said
Vic Holman said 3589 days ago (July 1st, 2007)
thanks
in the loop it contests i don't think there are any winners. cash would do fine.
and yes there is a bikini bar at the back of this train;-)

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Mute Albino said 3549 days ago (August 9th, 2007)
Collage
A true master of collage! Really Great!
I like your attitude!
Only critic: the mix is a bit too much separated.
Try to fill all the spots from -45 to 45. Give each instrument/noise it's own place. I'm sure it will uplift it even more!
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Vic Holman said 3549 days ago (August 9th, 2007)
Thank You
It's been awhile since I listened to it myself. You could easily be right. With fresh ears I'll more than likely hear it in a whole new light.
Thanks for the listen

I've been enjoying the songs of yours that I have managed to catch

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LIOLI6 said 3525 days ago (September 2nd, 2007)
LIOLI6

Please join us for LIOLI6.

It'll be both a challenge and a lot of fun!
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