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It Comes Down To This (remix) (collab w/jgurner and Macaudion)


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Sorry about this...

This is a slight remix of this song:

http://www.macjams.com/song/32487

which is, itself, an alternative take of this song:

http://www.macjams.com/song/26875

which was called 'Meeting Disillusionment'...

As I read through the comments, it became apparent to me that too many people were being bothered by that overload distortion on the tympani, so I went in to see what I could do. It turns out that I was flat WRONG about it being on the original track, that I had set it up wrong when I went to mix so long ago... So apologies to Dion and Joseph on that one... Mea culpa all the way...

Thus, I was able to back off the main track a little, and strap some TrackPlug mastering on the total mix and get a much cleaner track...

Anybody who downloaded the first one, my apologies... please download this one and listen to it happily...

Once again, thanks to jgurner and Macaudion for their particular brands of genius...and for being such nice guys...
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Comments
Macaudion said 3816 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
Ha!
Those guys are gonna be so p'd - And don't even hang out here much lately - Talk about slackn' - Geez!!!
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ledebutant said 3816 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
Thirdsies
Dangit!

I have no excuse. I was upstairs on the couch eating oatmeal and reading a book about The Beatles. This incident makes a very good case for me to add Internet access to my cell phone.

Thirdsies stink.
Ed Hannifin said 3816 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
Oatmeal and The Beatles...
...is a good combination, though...

If you're gonna miss 'firsties', then it might as well be for oatmeal and The Beatles...

Ed
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Ed Hannifin said 3816 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
As important as it is to be first...
...it is even more important to gloat...

Allowing proper time for gloating is something that people don't always take into account...

In this, as in all things, you are my mentor...

Ed
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ledebutant said 3815 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
Hmm
I think I'd like to write a song called "Oatmeal and the Beatles" to guitar music by you.
Cori Ander said 3816 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
Nice piece
Nice piece. Clear and clean mix.

It is so nice to hear you've had room for your productive side. This is a bit from the loved folk rock niche. I am starting to wonder what we may await from you in the future. Are we to see a a fusion between the defferent sides of you? Or maybe the birth of something yet unheard?
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Ed Hannifin said 3816 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
Well...
...not as much time as I'd like...

I still hope to find some whole afternoons at some point, and investigate what the new Taylor can do...

It IS a bit apart from my beloved folk rock niche, but still, I think, in keeping with what I do in that realm...

I hope that this coming year will have a nice mix of the expected and the unexpected...

Thanks as always for your listening ear, Johannes...

Ed
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thetiler said 3816 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
like the
interplay between the three sounds of the cello, piano and synth.
Again lots of neat stuff here. Interested snare and thump.

Like the strings going off into the distance and then re-entry.

Nice stuff and very interesting ideas. Love that floating cello towards the end. Cool ending!
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Ed Hannifin said 3816 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
Hello again, Bill...
Thanks for listening to both versions. This is yeoman service, and earns you twice the usual payment...

I, too, like that interplay, which I think is courtesy of Joseph Gurner. I think the string stuff you like is also his doing....

In fact, I think that the stuff that you like best is all in his basic track... a tribute to how well he sketched out the original tune...

Thanks for listening...

Ed
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echoroom said 3816 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
Hey Mr. Ed ..
... I missed the first version, will give it a spin after this, but what a lovely piece - very moody and cinematic, shades of Mark knopfler in the guitar playing. Great spacey production - I'd love an album full of tracks like this to play after work to calm me down.

Steve
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Ed Hannifin said 3816 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
I'm glad you heard this version, Steve...
...as opposed to the version I posted yesterday...

I hope you'll hunt down 'Meeting Disillusionment' to hear what it eventually turned into, which gets pretty interesting and different...

I think the space is a key player in here... a lot of people have mentioned it...

I'll take any Mark Knopfler comparisons that come my way with gratitude...

Thank you for giving a listen and letting me know what you thought,

Ed
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jiguma said 3816 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
Bugger!
:)
Just testing our reactions I suppose Ed!
Sounds much better.
Neil
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Ed Hannifin said 3815 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
Ah well...
Glad it sounds better, at least...

Thanks for the re-listen, Neil...

Ed
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caroline said 3815 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
i listened to this before
going to sleep - mmmmmmmmmmmmm - very soothing - ty - nite nite x
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Ed Hannifin said 3815 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
I get this a lot...
...and I DO prefer the word 'soothing' to the word 'boring', generally speaking...

Thanks for listening, Caroline...

Ed
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thoddi said 3815 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
Challenging
It seems like a challenging piece to add guitar to. The piano occupies a space in here which is in the whereabouts of the guitar at sometimes... Different perception on how a piece of music turns out in the end is always present in a collab. But the magic of more than one musician is present for sure.

To my taste I feel that the guitar ha taken a part with a bit too much "jam" approach. It needs a bit of a grab by the family jewels so it stands up right;) As I hear it, the majestic or pompous surroundings has quite a different agenda then what the guitar is up to. Separately there is magic in both camps though...
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Ed Hannifin said 3813 days ago (June 11th, 2007)
Thanks, thoddi...
There's no question that this guitar took a "jam" approach... Although the original plan when we started work on 'Meeting Disillusionment' was that I would produce a "bunch" of guitar tracks (I eventually did eight) for Dion to slice and dice bits out of as he chose...

It just so happened that this rough take with track 1 of guitar, which was on my iPod, became something of a favorite of miine...

It IS, no question about it, a rough mix, and a rough cut...a rough improvisation with good bits and bits that are less inspired...

Thanks for listening, as always; I have great respect for your musical taste...

Ed
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Vic Holman said 3815 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
worth repeating
my original comment as well.

Well except when i think about it. there is a ting of P. Floyds "Wish You Were Here" sound to this as well. which only brings up... which one is pink.

you don't need to repeat a reply

also gave me a second reason to relisten :-)
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Ed Hannifin said 3815 days ago (June 9th, 2007)
That would be the other one...
...the other Strat-ish tone that I might wish for in my dreams...

Those two guys...well, and Richard Thompson, have the sort of electric guitar tone that I really like best, I think...

So, whether I've managed to get the right notes going here or not, I am pretty pleased with the tone part of the experiment...

Thanks for listening again, Vic...

Ed
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Denny Borsboom said 3815 days ago (June 10th, 2007)
Good atmosphere
This is very floydish in a good way. I was also reminded of Dire Straits instrumentals (e.g., Private Investigations), your best notes approach Knopfler's. I like the combination of instruments. I found the guitar brilliant in some places, but a little dominant in other spots; perhaps it needs a little bit more reverb to make it blend in with the mix. Still, a great atmosphere that you manage to create.
Best
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Ed Hannifin said 3813 days ago (June 11th, 2007)
Floydish in a good way...
...would that count as a 'double positive'?

I actually will cop to having 'Brothers In Arms' in my mind while working on this, as well as some of the David Gilmour solo stuff... and, although I know I'm not there yet, the other big influence was Fran Dagostino teaching me how to improve my bends, which aren't strong and definite enough yet...

Hmmm. More reverb. I LIKE reverb... I was worried that I was using too much... Hmmm....

Thanks for the encouragement. I am going now to Reverb-land, to buy more reverb...

ALways good to hear your thoughts, Denny....Thanks again...

Ed
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perceptualvortex said 3815 days ago (June 10th, 2007)
More
Good remix; I think that tympani is better. Ok, aside from more of the Chasm City imagery (see comment on previous mix) this reminds me of sitting by the train tracks at the switching yard, and just watching the big lonely trains swap cars. Events on a large scale, moving slowly, but relentlessly, full of latent sleeping power. I'm not sure what that mood is; more wonder than sadness, just a cosmic awe. Anyway, very enjoyable tune, Ed, Dion and Joseph!
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Ed Hannifin said 3813 days ago (June 11th, 2007)
Well...I trust your ears...
If you say the tympani is better, then I'm a happy man...

You know, I actually used to watch trains switching, back in my BU days, down by Allston/Brighton trainyards....So I get this image, too... I used to love 'Nighttime In The Switching Yard' by Warren Zevon for this reason...

Yeah, I got more 'cosmic awe' than sadness from Joseph's music... I can see this in the opening framing shots for the never filmed supermovie of 'Stranger In A Strange Land'...

Thanks again, David... You're TOPS!..... Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha....

Ed
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timothy devine said 3814 days ago (June 11th, 2007)
thanx
got it ...i didn't here the distotion in my other version till i put it thru some other speakers...so thanks for fixing the mix ...
i wasn't thinking floyd but here it now... as well as knoppler...
keep playing
tim
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Ed Hannifin said 3813 days ago (June 11th, 2007)
Tim, guys that show up...
...for BOTH mixes of the tune get extra credit...

Thanks for the extra listening. Knopfler and Floyd. Plainly, I need to buy that Fender guitar before I get any older...

Thanks again, Tim...

Ed

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Tadashi Togawa said 3813 days ago (June 12th, 2007)
Beautiful.
Ed,,,

Dramatic.
Your new talent.
Wonderful.

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Ed Hannifin said 3812 days ago (June 12th, 2007)
Thank you, Tadashi....
I'm glad you listened. It's good to hear from you again.

Ed
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Komrade K said 3813 days ago (June 12th, 2007)
For a moment...
...I thought Dave Gilmore was 'in the room'!

I really like that bowed acoustic bass effect with the electric guitar and there's such a lot of really lovely phrases coming in and out of this. Could be the soundtrack for a film sequence where the lead character is caught in a moral dilemma then resolves on a positive but surprising course of action...

KK
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Ed Hannifin said 3812 days ago (June 12th, 2007)
Don't I wish...
I love David Gilmour's tone and phrasing, and especially his ability to play SLOW... He's the master of getting it right...

Thanks for reminding me of the bowed bass sound... that IS a very cool sound, again thanks to Joseph Gurner...

That last sentence sounds like an awful lot of moments from my life... Or how I'd HOPE it would turn out, anyway...

Thanks again, Martyn... I'm always pleased when you give a listen...

Ed
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Brian Weiland said 3812 days ago (June 12th, 2007)
Surprise!
Not what I was expecting after listening to your folky stuff!

Definitely deserves all the Gilmour/Knopfler comparisons. I admire your ability to play melody for that long without just falling back into mindless riffing. Cool cinematic background. There are a few bends where I wish they were yanked just a little higher, but there are lots more with just that killer Knopler tone.

What a great track!

~Brian
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Ed Hannifin said 3811 days ago (June 13th, 2007)
I have to admit...
...that I also rather like mindless riffing...

I'm pleased and flattered at all the Gilmour/Knopfler comparisons, as those are directions I would wish to go... The experiment part of this early set of tracks, for me, was partly to mess around with finding a tone that I liked that WASN'T my previous favorite, a highly distorted Mesa Boogie kind of sound...something cleaner and more spidery... and another part was to mess around with aiming for cleaner bends, as Fran/ziti had shown me how to do... some of these, as you can hear, were 'hits' and some fall short of their target...It's fun to have a method of practicing now, though... (Thanks, Fran!)...

And, also on my end, I have been wanting to stretch the way that I'm perceived around here, just a little...So I'm not just the aging New England folkie... Stupid piece of vanity on my part, but there it is...

Thanks for listening, Brian! I love your 'Fanny Poer' piece...

Ed
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lavalamp said 3812 days ago (June 13th, 2007)
Very nice
Nice arrangement. Has a soundtrack feel to it.
Glad to have heard this and well-done.
P.S. like the drums.
LL
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Ed Hannifin said 3811 days ago (June 13th, 2007)
The soundtrack/cinematic quality...
I think was really Joseph Gurner's doing in these early tracks, and become even more so in the final sliced and diced versions that Macaudion did in 'Meeting DIsillusionment'. I hope you caught that 'final product', if you liked that quality in this...

I love those huge tympani, too.

Thanks for listening,

Ed
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dreadmon said 3812 days ago (June 13th, 2007)
Nice gravity
Everything about this track has a certain kind of gravity - heavy, while still being spacious - it's a super-solid musing, I love the tension built-up by the timpani and snare rolls - the recurring piano motif weaves a nice web with the guitar lines and there's just enough pad in the background to lightly fill space. A very thought-provoking and evocative piece - I especially like the little minor that you slip in towards the end - just enough to tease the ear. Very nice!
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Ed Hannifin said 3811 days ago (June 13th, 2007)
There are these great moments....
...when someone says something some music that you're involved in that you've never heard before...

Like, "Nice gravity!" First time on that one...

But I get what you mean. This has got a weighty thing going on with the drums, and then a nice midrange heft in the piano that's really well articulated... I'm glad you mentioned the snare, too, 'cause I keep forgetting about that and concentrating on the tympani...

Composition credit, over and over, goes to jgurner... Thanks, Joseph!

And thanks for listening, Bing... I'm always pleased when you do...

Hope you caught Brian Weiland's version of 'Fanny Power'... while I'm thinking of it...

Ed
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guitapick said 3812 days ago (June 13th, 2007)
Listened to the others...
...and this is definitely cleaner...more depth.

As I get more into recording, I'm amazed at how something that sounds "great" can be made to sound even better (sometimes "WAY" better) with recording techniques and add-ons. This sounded really fine before...now I see the difference.

A really fine, moody piece Ed, jgurner, and Macaudion...
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Ed Hannifin said 3811 days ago (June 13th, 2007)
Extra credit for you, too, Bob...
When I went back to clean this up, I thought I'd just drop the tracks a few dB, and end of story...

But the other thing I did was simple strap TrackPlug's mastering preset across the master track. Didn't diddle with it or anything. I think it ended up smoothing things out a little, and contributing some sheen and perceived space...

Maybe jg, Macca and I need to form a new MacJams entity, called The Moody Brothers... gotta trademark that one before it gets away...

Thanks again, Bob...

Ed
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FEEL said 3812 days ago (June 13th, 2007)
This has really grown from the first take
Nice sound from that guitar, I now think I should have opted for the pod. The piano and keys are placed well and executed, and the drums almost sound like waves slapping the beach as they roll into the composition. The whole song has feel to it. Loved the experiment as much as you guys I'm sure enjoyed the experience.
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Ed Hannifin said 3811 days ago (June 13th, 2007)
I love my POD...
I am always amazed when people say that they can't get a decent or amp-like tone from them. I find mine so easy to use, and much more tube-y sounding than what I was able to get from the demos I tried of Amplitube and Guitar Rig... Plus... no latency... Not a whisper of it...

One of these days when I have extra money...one of these days...I'm sure it'll happen ONE day... I think I'll either get the PODxt or the PODxt Live... I like this one so much, I bet the 'advanced' versions will be even more fun...

The piano, keys and drums are the heart of the tune, as I continue to say... Be sure to check out the 'finished' version with Macca's editing and mixing...

I'm glad you think this thing has feel... I think so, too... This really was fun to do and Joseph and Dion are cool guys to work with...

Thanks for your thoughts, Texas...

Ed
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damiengh said 3810 days ago (June 14th, 2007)
Nice meandering
Flashes me back to the 70's. Alone or with a few people, on a candle lit evening in jasmine incensed apartments out toward Brookline, Allston or even off of Comm.Ave near BU, sipping cheap wine with toke or two while listening to a long side of an lp instrumental and getting soooooooooooooooo into it.

With everyone commenting intermittently with the likes of "whoa, did you hear that line" and "where did that one come from", and "hey, that one just lit up the yellow brick road".

Tanks for the memories and the good sounds.
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Ed Hannifin said 3809 days ago (June 15th, 2007)
Gosh, Damien...
...did we know each other?

That's certainly my place and time... I went to BU from 1974 to 1978 or 1979...Lived in the dorms on Comm. Ave and in Kenmore Square, then had first apartments in Allston, Brighton, border of Brookline, and then Brighton on the border of Watertown...

Boy, thank YOU for reminding me...

Ed
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SmokeyVW said 3809 days ago (June 15th, 2007)
woo
not familiar with any of the history of this... here goes

i'm thinking ladders and progressions - space and trains - a star-filled sky and my wife's smile - soft days and fear of getting old - birds at dawn and a sense of peace - and knowing that knowledge isn't all there is...

i really like the stereo separation in this!

thanks

(tech note: somehow the bass drum seems to be breaking up the high end?)
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Ed Hannifin said 3794 days ago (July 1st, 2007)
Ladders and progressions...
Those are beautiful musings, Bill...

All credit for the stereo separation and sense of space heads in the direction of jgurner in this early version, further modified later by Macaudion...

Still distortion? I thought I had cleaned that up....

Ed
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said 3808 days ago (June 17th, 2007)
hi... : )
whata great song . .. Man I'm glad to be back ,,, seems like i've been away from here for tooooo long ....really 've missed all this great great Music.. talking about OATMEAL : ) Mmmmmmmm LOVE IT ! Actually I just had a bowl an hour or two ago : ) Long time...
I was out on my great balcony now & saw 4 birds flying high up in the sky ....thought it was swans cause they looked so big ! It was Seagulls : ) Then a pair of Seagulls flew over a bit lower , so NICE Birds make me Happy : ) Came to think of another of Your Great Tunes / Songs..with the crows & The one with swans (?) Perhaps I'm mixing it up ? How many songs do You have with Birds ? SO FANTASTICto hear You Collabibg with These Other Great Musicians,,,,it makes me happy . TX EJH 8 )
Ed Hannifin said 3794 days ago (July 1st, 2007)
You sure do write an enthusiastic comment, ZOI...
...that comes through, even when I'm having trouble finding my through...

I think we can start simply, and say that oatmeal is a good thing. And we can surely agree that the chances are that ledebutant's oatmeal is probably better than mine...

I definitely have a song with a mockingbird in it, and a song with geese in it, and I do believe that there is a gull in 'Mist Comes Up The Valley'... I'm not sure about crows and swans... I'm searching my memory... I certainly have more birds in my songs than I thought I did...

And I am very glad that these songs and collabs make you happy...

Ed
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said 3806 days ago (June 18th, 2007)
awesome guys!
i closed my eyes and took a wonderful journey, starting a sweet climb upward with the guitar and piano - upward, upward until the huge percussion with military flavor sent me to the bottom of the mountain to start over again. i loved being mired in the middle, with the really lovely strings and strong steady bass until the explosive breakthrus reveal the mountain to be climbed again, and so one step at a time the piano/guitar shows us the way - ever upward.

pretty sure EVERYbody felt exactly the same way.
8)

one of supertramp's pieces put me in this mood. i'm appreciative of all the flavors going into this and melding so seamlessly. heart piercing strings/bass, such good piano, and very fine guitar string bending from you, ed. it's a fine example of excellent virtual ensemble work - bravo, boys! anne
Ed Hannifin said 3794 days ago (July 1st, 2007)
People seem...
...to be getting some very visual imagery from this one, which we will lay at the feet of jgurner's excellent structure...

I can actually hear the Supertramp thing, which may be related to the multi-textured production with a piano and drum base...

Anyway, I'm pleased that you were able to listen, Anne.... You have good ears, and intelligence in there between them... I always enjoy your comments...

Ed
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screamalexz said 3787 days ago (July 7th, 2007)
clean
nice melody on that guitar. sounds like there's thunder which is cool.
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Ed Hannifin said 3785 days ago (July 10th, 2007)
Thanks for listening, Chance...
I think the thunder comes from jgurner's tympani... It does give the whole piece a bit of gravity, don't you think?

Glad you got a chance to catch this one...

Ed
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Ed Hannifin said 3785 days ago (July 10th, 2007)
Thanks for listening, Chance...
I think the thunder comes from jgurner's tympani... It does give the whole piece a bit of gravity, don't you think?

Glad you got a chance to catch this one...

Ed
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Doadars Uncle said 3774 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
Symbiosis
This has a real stark feel to it, almost desolate. It blends nicely. The reciprocity is wonderful!

Doug
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Ed Hannifin said 3769 days ago (July 25th, 2007)
Thank you, Doug...
I think in this short comment you really capture something of what this version of the tune has to offer... To my ears, anyway, it does have that stark and desolate quality, and it also has that nice, as you put it, symbiotic intertwining of the parts, most of which is the work of jgurner at this point in the matter...

I'm glad you had the time to listen. I really appreciate your thoughts here.

Ed
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ginz111 said 3773 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
Ed!
Stopped by to see whats new and I come across this wonderful track. Great production as always.
Carl
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Ed Hannifin said 3769 days ago (July 25th, 2007)
Carl, sir!
It's always good to hear from you... I'm pleased you liked the production...

Thanks for dropping in for a listen...

Ed
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Moviz said 3768 days ago (July 27th, 2007)
Until now..
I hadn't caught up with your music, but so glad I looked up your repertoire tonight. It's all so-oo good, but this particular piece is wonderful. 'Pictorial music' I call it, for the mental images it inspires. I love the combination of sounds and the build ups to different 'rooms'; and you don't need me to comment on the guitar playing, when so many great guitarists here sing your praises.... I can only agree with them., M
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Ed Hannifin said 3766 days ago (July 28th, 2007)
Moviz,...
...once again I'm quite delighted that you've stumbled onto my stuff. I am always surprised and flattered when people pick up on the guitar playing; I know very well that here at MacJams I'm very much a junior member of that club... Even so, I try to stretch the rough skill I do have into simple and pleasurable forms...

As for the rest of your kind comments, I hope that you will also check out the work of my collaborators here. The largest contributor to this particular mix of this particular piece was jgurner... by all means, give his stuff a listen, and more than one song, because he covers a lot of musical ground... and then of course, Macaudion is a world unto himself... So the same thing goes... Listen to anything of his that you can find...

Thanks again for listening and for your encouraging comments...

Ed
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BranDaMan said 3757 days ago (August 6th, 2007)
Good!
such a calming and peaceful tune. Excellent arrangement, and production. Very spacious. Good work
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Ed Hannifin said 3755 days ago (August 8th, 2007)
Thanks, Brandon...
I'm pleased that I got to be part of this... Major credit for the space and peaceful vibe goes to jgurner on this one... He really laid out the bones of this piece...

Thanks for listening to it and letting me know what you think...

Ed
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VicDiesel said 3752 days ago (August 12th, 2007)
Chilled, not shaken
I imagine that this would be an after hours jam, with musicians who have been playing all night, and there is no energy left, but still plenty of soul.

Great downtempo track.

Victor.
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Ed Hannifin said 3749 days ago (August 14th, 2007)
Thank you for an astute comment, Vic...
I'm glad you find something cool about it, low energy an' all...

Thanks for listening,

Ed
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gail60 said 3744 days ago (August 19th, 2007)
really cool song
I really like this tune. You did a great job putting it all together. Great guitar...many awesome strong points throughout the entire song that make people want to continue listening over and over. Thanks for sharing!
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Ed Hannifin said 3726 days ago (September 6th, 2007)
Thanks...
I hope you'll check out jgurner's stuff, as he is without doubt the 'architect' of this tune, the one who put the structure together...

I'm pleased you listened and enjoyed it...

Ed
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sloparts said 3740 days ago (August 23rd, 2007)
Picture this if you will.
You're flying over a large field where a tremendous battle has been waged, and everywhere you look are the signs of war. Pyres rise up from the ashes of battle and everywhere lay the dead and dying. The scene is one of total devastation. There are no winners here.

Such is the melancholy picture I saw in my mind when I closed my eyes as the music played out. This is not a bad thing for a song to do, for it reminds us of the folly of war.

I really like what you've done here with your music. Others may, and probably will react differently to it, but they will react. And isn't that what music is supposed to do is make us stop and take notice of our existence, our state of mind, and the world around us.

A very moving piece of music for which I applaud you. Thanks for sharing it.

Ed
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Ed Hannifin said 3726 days ago (September 6th, 2007)
Thanks for the impressions...
...both visual and emotional... I think jgurner really put together an emotive sort of soundscape here, something that creates a mood and a vibe, over which I got to lay a bit of guitar...

I'm glad you took the time to give a listen, and I appreciate that you left a thoughtful comment....

Ed
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bonnieprincejohnny said 3729 days ago (September 4th, 2007)
Pleasant.
What type of guitar is featured in your artwork, I like the look of it. Be lucky.
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Ed Hannifin said 3726 days ago (September 6th, 2007)
Glad you found it pleasant...
The guitar is a Charvette, the 'beginner' end of the Charvel line, although I haven't seen them around in a while. I believe it cost me about $140 back in the Eighties, 'cause I was working in a music store...Fellow MacJammer Guitarjanson helped me to play through a whole shipment of them, and picked out the best one on the wall...It just happened to be in a rather startling red color...

It has been a great guitar to play over the past twenty years... Terrific neck/fingerboard/action... Prob'ly built by someone in a good mood...

Ed
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Pete_NB said 3649 days ago (November 23rd, 2007)
Nice!
Great work here Ed. Great uncompressed mix that jsut feels good on the ears. And wonderful guitar. Nice and tasty treatment you give this one. Perfect tone for the song as well, the POD can only do so much, you have to have it in the fingers!
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Ed Hannifin said 3581 days ago (January 29th, 2008)
Well...plainly...
I need to get back to my songs more...

Thanks for the comment, Pete...I'm glad you liked the mix and the guitar... I appreciate the encouragement...

Ed
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ktb said 3640 days ago (December 1st, 2007)
omg
Ed, this is really cool. You hit the perfect stride with your phrasing, tone and melodies. To everyone involved many kudo's. Its very deeply threaded with all the parts seemingly done together. The piano, percussion, guitar...luv it
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Ed Hannifin said 3581 days ago (January 29th, 2008)
Thanks, John...
Sorry to take so long getting back...

Most of the credit goes to Joe Gurner, with me just doing the guitar and nothing else... It was then turned over to Dion for slicing and dicing... I just liked this early mix and kept it in the iPod...

Ed
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said 3639 days ago (December 2nd, 2007)
Lovely
This song goes right down to my calm down play list.
Thanks guys loved it.

Peace, Love & Respect
---
Kenta
Ed Hannifin said 3581 days ago (January 29th, 2008)
Thanks Kenta,
I seem to get 'calm' a lot...

Gotta go with what you're good at, I guess...

I'm glad you enjoyed it...

Ed
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davisamerica said 3629 days ago (December 13th, 2007)
right then ed
newbie here finding way around after 3 months and here i am.....very cool this one
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Ed Hannifin said 3581 days ago (January 29th, 2008)
And on the other hand...
Look at how long it took me to reply... Sorry 'bout that...

Thanks for the good words...I'm pleased that you liked it...

Ed
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said 3621 days ago (December 21st, 2007)
WOW !
Amazing MOODY piecem relaxing with a masterful composition and playing .. LOVED IT !!

Sorry for being late to comment but i got to be at the firsts who faved this .. Great Collab

Thanks for sharing ..
Ed Hannifin said 3581 days ago (January 29th, 2008)
Thanks for your comment, Yeman...
It is a moody piece, and credit for all its cool moodiness goes to multi-instrumentalist jgurner...

I'm glad you came back to leave a comment... Sorry it took me so long to reply...

Always good to hear from you...

Ed
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thetiler said 3582 days ago (January 28th, 2008)
Enjoy
the unconventional with the classic orchestration, has kind of a military flavor. Wait then comes the crash, what was that? Now you really got me wondering, but it must of been important. It almost reminds me of somebody is getting hung the next day by the military. Especially with the title being "it comes down to this".

Nice texture with the electric, enjoyed especially the piano and strings etc. Interesting ending!
Thanks for sharing, enjoyed reading your thoughts of the tune in the info.

Ed, you are so prolific in your writing and taking about tec things. Always seems busy buying new music electronic gadgets.
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Ed Hannifin said 3581 days ago (January 29th, 2008)
I think...
...whatever military flavor this has comes from the tympani...

I think the 'hanging' metaphor is....[wait for it]...kind of a stretch...

I'm glad you liked the guitar texture. I think one of the reasons I hung onto this mix is that, despite sloppiness in my playing, I really liked the tone I got out of the Charvette and the POD on this one...

All the rest, as noted, was Joe...

I actually DON'T buy all that much stuff, really. I DO tend to buy a bunch of things in clumps, so that may make it seem like I end up with more than I really do... And, having managed a music store, I've also had a lot of stuff in my hands that I never had to purchase... It can be quite an education...

But I'll admit to really enjoying the art of recording... I have to get back into it, so I'll not just be typing all the time rather than playing...

Ed
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ajnorth said 3578 days ago (February 1st, 2008)
Nice
music. a nice mix and nice playing. Just very nice man!
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Ed Hannifin said 3578 days ago (February 2nd, 2008)
Thanks, aj...
I'm glad you gave it a listen. I have very much enjoyed your tunes as well. If you ever get a chance to check out any of my other ones, some of the other ones might be a little more typical of what I do...

Thanks for taking the time to listen and leave a comment.

Ed
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Ed Hannifin said 3555 days ago (February 24th, 2008)
Thank you, aj...
Nice of you to stop by.... Thanks for listening...

Ed
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said 3563 days ago (February 16th, 2008)
So Beautiful.

HI

Ejh Excellent.
this is superb as superb gets lovely melodic sound -just wonderful
words cannot express -how sweet the guitar sounds too and all the other effects- very dreamy like- moments to treasure. Thank you for sharing.


Peace
Dee.
Ed Hannifin said 3555 days ago (February 24th, 2008)
Thank you, Dee....
I'm pleased you found so much to like. Hopefully you picked up from all the writing above that jgurner is the main architect here, and was cool enough to let me post this rough mix that I did for myself...

Thank you for listening, and thank you for the encouraging comment.

Ed
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magnatone said 3558 days ago (February 22nd, 2008)
I LIKE IT!
Oh, this is great. I like the various instruments playing off of each other, really imaginative. This kept my attention from beginning to end. thanks
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Ed Hannifin said 3555 days ago (February 24th, 2008)
Hello again and thanks again...
As noted above, much of the intertwining quality is the work of jgurner... It was great working with the tracks he put together....

Thanks again for listening and commenting. I really do appreciate it.

Ed
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8piscean8 said 3540 days ago (March 11th, 2008)
Unconventional but Great
I like how there is no constant rhythm section holding down a steady beat besides maybe the pads in some parts. The gong in the middle is also pretty good (it's decay/repetition lasts just a bit long for me though). Very calming, oh wait, sounds like a rain stick, that's superb, I like how it flows across the stereo field. I really like the snare sound. It sounds like a marching snare and reminds me of high school. Very soothing collaboration. Great job peeps!
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Ed Hannifin said 3536 days ago (March 15th, 2008)
Thank you, 8piscean8...
I think most of what you're appreciating on this is the work of Joe Gurner, and you might want to check out his other tunes... He certainly produced a neat track here... I agree about the way that it has structure without a rhythm section, and about they way that Joe used the stereo field...

Thanks for listening...

Ed
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8piscean8 said 3531 days ago (March 20th, 2008)
Yes I will
I will definitely check out some of Joe's work. Thanks for the info.
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kclements said 3533 days ago (March 18th, 2008)
Nice piece
I like the texture of this piece. Everything seems to fit very well in the mix and make the whole come together.

Thanks for posting this.
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Ed Hannifin said 3530 days ago (March 20th, 2008)
Thank you, kclements...
I appreciate your listen and comments. As I seem to say over and over, the texture and mix are all the work of jgurner... Check his stuff out when you get a chance...

Ed
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stacey said 3516 days ago (April 4th, 2008)
I'm in LOVE!
LOVE! I'm listening right now, and it's got me hooked.

You know I'm a vocal junkie, and I sometimes have a hard time with instrumentals (or maybe you didn't know that! haha!), anyway, this, for me, doesn't NEED any vocals! The guitar, the percussion, the strings? All of it. WOW! What about that crescendo and timpani roll?

I am serious, I have not heard any instrumental on this site that compares to this.

This song speaks. And I am listening!

10, 10, 10, 10.

Thank you so much,
Stacey
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Ed Hannifin said 3423 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
Wow, Stacey...
How'd I miss this comment? I'm glad this vocal-less enterprise caught your ear...

I think the credit for the structure, the melodic lines, and that dramatic tympani and stuff must all go to Joe Gurner, founder of the piece...

I just did the bits of electric guitar...

Glad you liked it so much, though...

Hope you checked out the piece it eventually became on Macaudion's page...

Ed
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composerclark said 3509 days ago (April 11th, 2008)
Oh nooooooooooooooo!
How'd I miss this? HOW? Oh noooooooooo!!! Oh well; at least I'm only 10 months late. What really bugs me are people who take 11 months to post a comment. That is unforgivable...

Okay, enough pointless rambling! I like this very much. To me it sounds like a movie score; not sure I hear this as experimental. Very moody... maybe a little sad, maybe a little nostalgic, but it's really, really well done!
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Ed Hannifin said 3423 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
To me, the really BAD people...
...are the ones who miss replying to comments for over four months...

Hey, Clark, I'm very happy that you like this. It was experimental in that jgurner put together the structure and then send it to Dion, who sent it to me for guitar, who sent it back to Dion, who then sliced it up and restructured it into the piece that Macaudion eventually posted...

This was sort of the "middle" position of the total experiment, and I just ended up posting it (with the other guys' permission) 'cause I liked it...

I always take what you have to say seriously, and I'm very pleased you enjoyed this...

Ed
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dolby said 3426 days ago (July 3rd, 2008)
Excellent
Another great tune. Lovely atmospheric piece and wonderful lead guitar playing. I'm interested that this is recorded using GB 2&3. I sometimes get a bit worried that I'm not using Logic (as if you can't really get an expansive, rich sound in GB) but this puts that notion to bed. Wonderful production job. Very enjoyable.
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Ed Hannifin said 3423 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
Hello again, Phil...
I continue to be glad that you've checked out a few of the things I've posted.

I think the credit for the bulk of the production goes to Joe Gurner, with a little left over for the good people at Line 6 for the guitar tones I was able to get. I'm glad you liked the guitar... I think I like it mostly because it's doesn't sound, to me, like the usual sort of thing I do...

Continued thanks for the listens and thoughtful comments...

Ed
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Rebsie said 3217 days ago (January 28th, 2009)
Lovely lovely
What a beautiful melody ... and I love the interplay between piano and guitar. Full of nice touches with the subtle echoes and the rumbling and booming atmospherics. Superb musicianship all round.

I'm sorry I missed it when it came out but consider it thoroughly appreciated now that I've got round to it.
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Ed Hannifin said 3193 days ago (February 20th, 2009)
Thanks, Rebsie...
I'm glad you found it and liked it... Joe Gurner gets most of the credit, but I'll beam proudly about the guitar bits...

Ed
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Skean said 3194 days ago (February 20th, 2009)
Dreamy
This is too me a dream away piece of music, a really nice trip a moment of peace, it makes your soul feel healed in someway who is hard for me to explain, but some song have that effect on me, this was one of them…Thanks for sharing this beauty.

Peace
---
Kenta
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Ed Hannifin said 3193 days ago (February 20th, 2009)
Thank you, Kenta...
I'm pleased that you enjoyed this. You've plainly got a strong connection between music and feelings... Glad you connected with this one...

Ed
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Remark80 said 3192 days ago (February 22nd, 2009)
Great guitar work
I love this song. it reminds me of Mark Knopfler's work when he began doing sound tracks for movies. This is one for the I-Pod while waiting in the airport for a flight and watching the all the characters go by. Wondering where everyone else is going. Love the feel and mood. Nice work.
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Ed Hannifin said 3192 days ago (February 22nd, 2009)
Thank you, Sean...
That's a pretty complimentary comparison... I'm not in that league, but I'll confess to being a big Knopfler fan... I love your airport description... That's the sort of thing I'd do... Everything not guitar is the work of jgurner... from tympani to piano and the whole layout of the tune...

Ed
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paul f. page said 3191 days ago (February 22nd, 2009)
Very very nice...
...interplay amongst guitar/piano/and that snare that keeps chirping in...There is something in the story of this song that needs explanation. It strikes me as not just music, but a message with some real significance. I just wish I knew what it was... The performance and mix are all top drawer, Ed -- well-thought-out orchestration that is painstakingly wrought from beginning to end. Just a gorgeous track. I enjoyed it immensely.
Peace.
Paul
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Ed Hannifin said 3150 days ago (April 5th, 2009)
Thanks, Paul....
I think both Joe and I think in song structure, and so even things we do instrumentally tend to sound like there are almost words-or a story-in there.... All credit for actual thinking goes to Mr. Gurner... he laid the thing out and did all orchestration and all that....

Thanks for listening...

Ed
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Char said 3150 days ago (April 5th, 2009)
Excellent
collaboration. Fine artists all three of you. This is an enchanting piece of music that could be a movie soundtrack because it tells a story: Searching for something but not recognizing it when it is found. (or something like that.) Thanks.
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Ed Hannifin said 3150 days ago (April 5th, 2009)
Thanks again, Char...
jgurner gets all the credit for the stucture, I believe, and probably for the sense of motion in the piece... Searching for something but not recognizing it when it is found is a lifestyle for some of us...

Glad you liked it...

Ed
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MarkHolbrook said 3084 days ago (June 10th, 2009)
I liked the first one
just fine and this one seems to have taken out the initial lead that didn't settle right in the first version or perhaps just my ears got used to it.

I love when the timpani kicks in... Very nice!
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hackneybloke said 2923 days ago (November 17th, 2009)
it comes down to this
fab collab. i was just about to say what it was redolent of...but then i lost it. if it comes back to me i'll let you know. the tymp sounded fine to me...distorted or otherwise.
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