Piano quintet III - Divase

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Third and final movement of my Piano quintet which comes after Piano quintet I - Chives and Piano quintet II - Thades

I guess it's a very loose form of variations, with hints of Jazz Salsa Tango and the Blues.

It might need some more work. The opening section is repeated at the end without any modulation, only minute changes. I like it, but after a few listens, I'm having some doubts, it might need to be in a different key, or something. Also, as always, I having trouble finishing the piece.

Like "Chives" this uses in parts the technique of striking the string with the wood of the bow which I hope is not impossibly difficult rhythmically, or destructive to the instrument.

I am in the process of scoring all three movements, and will only know for sure whether they are actually playable or not when I’m finished.

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Hits: 1690
Comments: 22
Fans: 10
Plays: 265
Downloads: 125
Votes: 5
Uploaded: Oct 28, 2007 - 05:38:10 AM
Last Updated: Oct 28, 2007 - 07:18:02 AM Last Played: Mar 03, 2010 - 05:19:47 PM

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Hardware:

Yamaha keyboard

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East West Orchestral Gold Pro

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apb

apb said 874 days ago (October 28th, 2007)

Man ..

..this is awesome. I could here the jazz and blues influences, more so around half-way .. very dramatic and fresh in the more classical parts. Just brilliant, sir.

Now, go break some instruments!! Pity I can't find
a link to "Ballistic Bob" from 'Chewing the Fat' on
youtube .. I get a feeling from this piece you would
have enjoyed that character.

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cchaplin	cchaplin said 874 days ago (October 28th, 2007)
	Balistic Bob ? You've got me all intrigued. I'm off to search You Tube ! Thanks for listening. P.S. It would be nice to bring in a bit more Rock and Roll, and maybe have a string players smash their violins, etc. at the end of the piece - Lol! Check out my latest song called "C" Frame

Ibstrat	Ibstrat said 873 days ago (October 28th, 2007)
	Honestly I think this is one of the best things I have heard on macjams.I don't think it needs to be changed.I can hear Piazolla,Gershwin, Ravel,but you have your own style.I love this piece.Was there any improv involved or was it all written out? Check out my latest song called Stop it

cchaplin	cchaplin said 873 days ago (October 28th, 2007)
	Ibstrat Thank you kindly for such a nice comment. I mainly work by trial and error, and then by building on what I've kept from it, and so on, and so forth. So yes, there is an element of improvisation to start with but then it becomes more thought out. Once the piece is finished, I work out the score from the midi tracks. Check out my latest song called "C" Frame

guitapick	guitapick said 873 days ago (October 28th, 2007)
	I must ask: You're telling us that these are electronically produced instruments? That almost blows me away as much as this piece......almost.... Love the bass...just keeps things rolling along, there... Check out my latest song called Outside the Corral

cchaplin	cchaplin said 873 days ago (October 29th, 2007)
	I'm glad you like it Yes, the instruments are samples from the very good East West Orchestral Gold Pro software. Check out my latest song called "C" Frame

peacepiano	peacepiano said 867 days ago (November 3rd, 2007)
	Project Love the whole project. The realistic string voices are amazing. This is the "jazziest" of the three, and the easiest to understand. But all three are a joy. Thanks Bill Check out my latest song called New Jam (MJRF 2010)

cchaplin	cchaplin said 867 days ago (November 4th, 2007)
	Thank you I am glad you took the time to listen to all three movements in turn, for that's really how it should be heard. I hope they form a whole together in the listeners ears, even though there isn't a definite fast-slow-fast structure to it. Thank you very much for stopping by. Check out my latest song called "C" Frame

musichead	musichead said 867 days ago (November 4th, 2007)
	sunday morning listen I heard more than one style in this piece. I really like the violin. Ive aways been a fan of Jazz violin!! Very neat timing. And wow the strings and Orchesrta sound so real! Id like to hear more of this,and I will. Check out my latest song called unnamed acoustic

cchaplin	cchaplin said 866 days ago (November 5th, 2007)
	Thank you Musichead for visiting. I tried to get hints of different styles in this piece. I think the one that works the best is the section that goes into a sort of blues. Check out my latest song called "C" Frame

Feter	Feter said 866 days ago (November 4th, 2007)
	Piano quintet III - Divase this is very sweet and melodic . there s a great charm on this .and I think its the best piece from all the Suite .again the sound of the ensemble so realistic .welldone !! Check out my latest song called A Night With Feter feat'(Roxylee sloparts crissew johnwhitehead and Yamin AL Yamani )

cchaplin	cchaplin said 866 days ago (November 5th, 2007)
	Hello Feter You are right, this is the most melodic of the three, and probably the most accesible. My personal favourite is the second movement. Thanks for stopping by. Check out my latest song called "C" Frame

atonalis	atonalis said 857 days ago (November 13th, 2007)
	simply perfect. and i mean that in the most pure sense of the word...... the tonal content is wonderful....... i like the key...... do you see colors or get diff emotions from diff keys? i do. C is nice..... don't change it..... IMHO. wonderful musician you are..... a fan of Shostokovich and Bartok? Check out my latest song called lit with a wet match.

cchaplin

cchaplin said 856 days ago (November 14th, 2007)

C is so nice and easy,
You know, I pretty much decide whether to work with all the white notes, or all the black notes when I start on a piece, and then constantly struggle against being stuck in C, or in the pentatonic scale.

I envy people who can see different colours, and hear different moods relating to a chosen key. You must have perfect pitch, which I definitely don't have, even though I've tried to acquire it (there actually is a course on attaining perfect pitch - and I've got the Cds !).

I could sum up my way of working as having to constantly battle against being drawn and seduced by familiarity. Tonality is such a magnet !

Thanks for your comment, and I'm thrilled you liked the piece, and, yes, I love Bartok.

Check out my latest song called "C" Frame

Enrique Gil	Enrique Gil said 848 days ago (November 23rd, 2007)
	Amazing! Original and interesting music. I did not know you could find strings software that sound like real instruments. Wonderful! Check out my latest song called Simple Feelings

cchaplin	cchaplin said 846 days ago (November 24th, 2007)
	Always nice to see you stop by Enrique. Check out my latest song called "C" Frame

Doadars Uncle	Doadars Uncle said 829 days ago (December 11th, 2007)
	Wow This is exciting stuff! Tooooo cool! Great rhythms and blend of genre! Doug Check out my latest song called Growler

	said 766 days ago (February 12th, 2008)
	Liking... the dense polychords, jazz inflections and instrumentation. Very nice work! Mature musicianship is in evidence here!

composerclark

composerclark said 705 days ago (April 13th, 2008)

Original
I like the unconventional harmonic language; very rooted in tonality, but you manage to make it sound fresh, That is a major achievement.

There is lots of rhythmic interest too; some unexpected shifts. This also really helps keep my interest... what's he going to do next? Never predictable.

I also really like the stylistic pastiche. This is something I like to explore and play with in my own music.

The 'col legno battute' stuff -- hitting the string with the wooden part of the bow -- does not strike me as being difficult at all. The resistance I have encountered from players with regards to this technique is that it can damage the finish of the bow, which is an understandable concern for them, since a good bow can cost $100,000! However, that's no reason not to write it into the music. Sometimes they'll bring an old bow to use for sections that ask for this technique, and sometimes they tap with the hard ivory plate at the tip of the bow, which produces more or less the same sound.

A couple of suggestions, or things to think about:

The piano writing seems kind of tame... traditionally, the piano in a piano quintet is pretty meaty and virtuosic. No reason why it should be that way here, of course, but it was just something that I noticed.

It is very sectional, almost like mini-movements within the larger movement. The more usual way of composing longer movements in classical music has been to develop the thematic material, and to have transitions, both of which tend to be harmonically and melodically unstable, leading to more stable thematic sections. Whether this is a good idea or not is of course up to you, but it may be worth considering for your next piece.

Overall, I really like this. Yours is an original voice, and I strongly encourage you to keep composing.

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cchaplin

cchaplin said 705 days ago (April 14th, 2008)

How cold is it in Canada ?
Clark, thank you so much, I really value your imput on this. Much of what you say is spot on. The piano is an instrument I know well, and which I really struggled with in my youth - I wanted to become a concert pianist ! Finally realising my limitations, I gave up in total disgust - I still find it hard not to be slightly put off, or intimidated by it.

I also take on board your point about themes, and maybe trying to stick with them, and develop them a bit longer. I think I suffer from a slight fear that whenever I come up with something I like, I tend to not want to take it too far for fear of destroying it in the first place.

Gosh, maybe I should consider moving to Canada for a few years ! I could do with a few of your classes.

Thanks again for your gererous feedback.

Check out my latest song called "C" Frame

chipan

chipan said 701 days ago (April 18th, 2008)

How on earth?
How do you get such realistic string sounds?

I enjoyed this piece, but I feel like I need to listen to it several more times before really absorbing it. The jazz hints are a nice touch. I felt like the ending was a little bit of a let down. Not that every piece needs to end on a bang or a traditional cadence, but it just seemed like it stopped before arriving where it was going. Just my opinion though- the piece overall is magnificent and I want to listen to more of your music as time permits. Really excellent writing.

peace,

chip

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dirigent	dirigent said 693 days ago (April 26th, 2008)
	Piano quintet 3 What a brilliant composition. It flows so nicely and it is so rich with the varied harmonies and different playing-techniques and rhythmic variations, a true gem! Bravo!! Check out my latest song called Hybrid

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