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| chipan said 622 days ago (March 14th, 2008) | |
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Thanks I appreciate your detailed comments! Actually I did use octave doublings in the climactic part. I didn't use that technique throughout because I wanted to build up to the climax. I will try to use more dynamics as you suggested. The thing about these string sounds is that after a certain velocity number they go from a straight sound to a tremelo sound. In other words it's hard to make them soft and tremelo. I will try messing with the master volume more. I don't think I have mutes. I'm not a string player myself so I am not even sure how that sound is achieved in real playing. What program do you use for your orchestral sounds? Thanks again for all your help! chip Check out my latest song called Psalm 107
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| chipan said 619 days ago (March 17th, 2008) | |
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Strings Thanks! I'm not familiar with Notation. I used to use Sibelius when I was doing notation in University, but my version is so old and I can't get it to work on my current computer. I guess for now I will stick to GB since I don't have the budget for more software now. Thanks for the advice though! I need to learn more about string playing in general. chip Check out my latest song called Psalm 107
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| MarkHolbrook said 622 days ago (March 14th, 2008) | |
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Agreed I agree totally with Soul... One other thing I note is that some of the terminations are very abrupt. This tends to make me think they are not real strings from an untrained listener stand point. When I've heard say real quartets rarely does the cello just simply stop hard. Usually they fade out with a gentle bow. Obviously in some places hard stops are needed but somehow they sound different then the synth versions. Check out my latest song called Never Say Goodbye - Bond Challenge
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| chipan said 622 days ago (March 14th, 2008) | |
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Hard stops Thanks for stopping by and commenting. I think I understand what you are saying. I'm not exactly sure how to remedy that. With software string sounds there is no decay as long as the note is sustained. I will try to figure it out. Perhaps the using the master volume to fade out will sound more realistic. Appreciate your comments. chip Check out my latest song called Psalm 107
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| thetiler said 622 days ago (March 14th, 2008) | |
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Sounds nice I would love to hear more bowed bass, you have the deep tones in various parts like at the end but I think it is so effective in a piece like this. Thanks for sharing. Like how you are making it sound like your own and not a Jam Pack. Like Soulima says doubling and even re doubling, some maybe a bit of reverb then tone it way low, so me it gives more of an orchestral effect. But you don't even have to do that on the first level. Maybe an overlay with hint of reverb. I know in Logic, 8, one of the neat things is you can very quickly pull up or down the level of each instrument because you have the tool at the press of the mouse.. With GB and can be a bit time consuming. Still it sounds real nice and is a good addition to MJ. Thanks for sharing Check out my latest song called I't Been A While
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| chipan said 622 days ago (March 14th, 2008) | |
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Bass I also love bowed bass sounds. I will experiment with adding more. I'm wondering if in the future I should buy Logic or something a little more professional. I guess I need to learn how to use GB better first. Thanks so much for your comments. chip Check out my latest song called Psalm 107
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| Feter said 622 days ago (March 15th, 2008) | |
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Untitled String draft this is a charming piece my friend ..the strings has alot of passions ...very wonderfull playin .. I think it need a lil delay and decrease the reverb (dry) ..so the wave will be lil longer and wont be end fast as the sustain will give more realsitic sound .this is exactly what I tried with my strngs soundfonts ..your much better ..so I guess will sound more realsitc than mine ..thnx alot for sharin such gem ! Check out my latest song called A Night With Feter feat'(Roxylee sloparts crissew johnwhitehead and Yamin AL Yamani )
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| chipan said 620 days ago (March 16th, 2008) | |
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Thanks for your advice and your encouraging comments! chip Check out my latest song called Psalm 107
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| chipan said 620 days ago (March 16th, 2008) | |
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forum Thanks so much. I will definitely check out the forum when I have time! I appreciate your help! chip Check out my latest song called Psalm 107
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| guitapick said 615 days ago (March 21st, 2008) | |
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I have... ...less knowledge than you about electronic string sounds...so these posts are great for me, too...I'm going to save this to my desktop for future reference... I do think that this is beautiful and am looking forward to further development, though... Check out my latest song called Outside the Corral
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| chipan said 614 days ago (March 22nd, 2008) | |
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Thanks Bob Appreciate your stopping by and the kind words. I hope to update this piece soon. chip Check out my latest song called Psalm 107
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| chipan said 614 days ago (March 22nd, 2008) | |
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Thanks Claus I appreciate your comments. It's funny that you mentioned using the piano. I had considered doing just that, and in future versions I might do it. I also like your advice about my listening to music and trying to figure out a good string sound by myself. After I made this draft I listened to a bit of orchestral music, and I plan to do more of that to try to match the sounds. It's good practice for my ears. Thanks again for your support! chip Check out my latest song called Psalm 107
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| Doug Somers said 609 days ago (March 27th, 2008) | |
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Yeah! Nicely crafted sir. I really like where this is going. I don't have anything I can add about improving the string sound over and above what the others have said. For my work now I 'cheat' and use orchestral samples. Thanks for sharing this work! Keep well, Doug Check out my latest song called Desiree (MJ Space Race 2009)
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The strings actually sound very good overall. If you can tinker around with dynamics that would help. Strings are capable of remarkable dynamic contrasts--from ppppp to fffff. You've used a bit of dynamic contrast, but could bump it up to the next level by playing more with dynamics.
Another suggestion is to use more octave doublings. If you are looking for a full string orchestra sound, trying doubling parts. Doubling some of the parts an octave higher, especially in climatic sections can perhaps help to give you that string sound you are likely trying to emulate.
Consider opening with solo string sounds, instead of string ensemble sounds. Then gradually introduce the string ensemble--preferably muted strings(if you have the samples) if you can. Take off the mutes as you progress to larger climatic sections.
If you can have your strings tremolo, that would also help especially at the beginning.
Nice piece! Very musical, with a strong melody. Keep working on this!