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I was watching TV one day about 15 years ago, and came across a documentary about the mental institutions in my country, and how they were run up until the late 70's. It shocked and dismayed me how these poor souls were treated, both personally and medically. Up until it became known, many of these institutions were personal laboratories of the doctors running them, and remained insulated from the public by our very own government. This song was inspired by that documentary. I had trouble pitching it to the various bands I was in over the years because they all thought it was too dark and negative. I am thankful for the present day technology and for the first time I am able to hear what this song sounds like with a full band behind it.
Thank you to all who listen and sorry if this song depresses you. On a positive note, these institutions are now monitored closely and the standard of treatment has risen to an acceptable level.
Our government still refuses to acknowledge the extent of resources needed to give a lot of these people what they need, and sadly our homeless population has risen over the years because of it.
Peace
Guy
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Thorazine Dream copyright 1993 Guy Groves

Twelve long years since she's said a word
so they mostly leave her alone
They gave up tryin to get in her head
They say that there's nobody home

Wanders the halls in her thorazine dream
couldn't tell you if it's night or day
been on the inside for fifteen years
she doesn't know any other way

chorus + solo
It's cold there where she lives
deep inside her mind ya
couldn't begin to let you in
even if she tried ya
It's so lonely where she hides
deep inside her heart ya ya ya
couldn't begin to let you in
she wouldn't know where to start no
she wouldn't know where to start no no no


It's been worse since they took her sun
the windows have all been painted black
she watches the TV in the common
she keeps the wall to her back

they always fight about what to watch
till the white coats come and turn it off
and they will hurt her if she puts up a fight ya
and she knows that's how some get off
chorus + solo out

Copyright 1993 Guy Groves
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tempie said 3313 days ago (October 30th, 2008)
godawmighty
jeesh but this is a good song. irony is that i was just listening to porter wagoner's committed to parkview. subject matter aside, there are some joyfull chord progressions here...this one would have killed at the first lollapalooza...makes me want to find some mud. does that solo at the end blaze or what?
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guygrooves said 3313 days ago (October 30th, 2008)
Thanks
I really am happy you dig the song Tempi. I was having a good day that day lol the whole lead guitar track is a one take off the cuff. Thank you for the listen and kind words.
Peace
Guy
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sheilad said 3313 days ago (October 30th, 2008)
Hey
I totally get what you are doing here and I like what you did with the vocals! Very cool concept and great tune. You amaze me of course
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guygrooves said 3312 days ago (October 30th, 2008)
Hey Sheila
Thanks girl. I hope all is going well with you.
Peace
Guy
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DWL said 3312 days ago (October 30th, 2008)
Tough but good
I really liked the vocal effect but have you tried it with a "normal" vocal over the chorus and then back to effected?

Gets better as it goes on. Great melody and the lyrics might be a touch harsh but very effective.

I liked it :-)

Cheers

Dick


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guygrooves said 3312 days ago (October 30th, 2008)
Hey Dick
It is funny you should mention the normal vocal over the chorus, I almost did it but I wasn't sure if I liked it or not, maybe I should have given it more of a chance. Thank you for the kind words and the listen.
Peace
Guy
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dajama said 3312 days ago (October 30th, 2008)
Excellent
This is a really good song about a really dark subject matter, and I think the performance is outstanding. The vocal effect works well. I think Dick has a point about mixing it "un-effected" vocals as well. Either way, this works as is without a doubt. The lyrics are really well done - getting to the heart of the subject in a telling and evocative way - very cool. Love the mix and production, too. The guitar sounds great, and the bass has great presence in my phones, although it seems a bit weighted to the left (but that could be my ears!). The solo is spot on - you really got just the right groove going. Great song - great performance. Nice job!
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guygrooves said 3312 days ago (October 30th, 2008)
Thanks
Nice to see you Dave, your latest is very good. Thanks for the listen.
Peace
Guy
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Feter said 3312 days ago (October 30th, 2008)
Thorazine Dream
WOW ..Guy this is so deep and very thoughtful subject ..
the singin the arrangment all so powerfull ..great
great song ...loved the guitars here ...man this is all
so cool ..thnx alot for sharin !!

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guygrooves said 3312 days ago (October 30th, 2008)
Feter ....
Your kind words warm my heart. You are the nicest guy here. Thank you for being such an institution and listening to all our songs.
Peace
Guy
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sloparts said 3312 days ago (October 30th, 2008)
Great song Guy
Love the lyrics, they say so much about the things that happen to people in life.

I have to wonder why the strange vocal, especially when the lyrics are this good. I mean I can understand the effect it might have, like your stepping inside here head and listening to the song coming into her mind from the outside world. It is pretty trippy, I'll say that, and it's possible the song wouldn't work as well as it does in a normal voice.

Ok, I'll get off the analitical couch now and just say I really like it. It's strange, but I like it anyway. Great track, thanks for sharing it.

Be well and be cool Guy,

Ed.
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guygrooves said 3312 days ago (October 30th, 2008)
Ed thank you
You can take as much time as you want on that couch lol. I respect anything you have to say about anything. I am still not sure about the vocal myself, this song is going to eventually get one more record and arrangement. I will incorporate many of the suggestions that have been made. This is exactly why I love this site. If it weren't for people like yourself and some others it would be very hard to tell what might be, given a thoughtful, polite, and tactful suggestion be withheld. Hell, even sharp, mean, and nasty comments would provoke thought lol I am just glad that sort of thing isn't encouraged around here lol. Thanks again Ed.
Peace
Guy
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chronologic said 3312 days ago (October 30th, 2008)
Cool Song
Nicely done, which I'm coming to expect from you. My only comment is that I have no clue why bands wouldn't do this on grounds that it is "too depressing". I don't think it's depressing at all, on the music side of things. Most people probably wouldn't notice the lyrics actually so I can't see any harm in playing it out. In fact, my only negative comment would be that for such weighty and thoughtful subject matter the music is rather jovial, which might be a bit in conflict. But regardless it's an enjoyable listen.
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guygrooves said 3312 days ago (October 31st, 2008)
Thank you
I am very happy you like the song. I appreciate your insightful thoughts about it too. Thank you.
Peace
Guy
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said 3312 days ago (October 31st, 2008)
perfect song
from start to finish!
guygrooves said 3312 days ago (October 31st, 2008)
Thank you
I am flattered you think so, although is it ever perfect? lol The fact that it isn't, is what keeps me trying, and I hope I never get it perfect for that reason alone. Thanks again for the listen and very kind words.
Peace
Guy
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said 3312 days ago (October 31st, 2008)
Great song...
...about a human tragedy and pathetic govt scandal.

I'm glad the situation has improved. My step dad worked as a guard at an institution like this some years back. He had some troubling stories about what went on...

Reminds me a little lyrically/thematically of Richard Thompson's "Behind Grey Walls" (which is a HUGE compliment btw!).

Some variation on the vocal effects would have been nice. Like effecting the verses but doing the chorus unaffected.

You told me you weren't a very good lead soloist...You're NUTS man! Your soloing rocks herein!

Nice gritty sound on those rockin' guitars Guy. Pretty solid mix too.

Be well friend!
guygrooves said 3312 days ago (October 31st, 2008)
Hey Micheal
Thank you sir your words are very much appreciated. I'm flattered by the comparison. It seems to be the consensus on the lyrics and I already have a re record planned for this. Thank you for the kind words about my soloing skills. You're hearing about everything I can muster with that one. I am getting better though, but I have never looked at myself that way, as I have always preferred to build an interesting rhythm bed for a "great" soloist to have at. Thanks again bro.
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Guy
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craft said 3312 days ago (October 31st, 2008)
great song
This really rocks.. Nicely performed..
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guygrooves said 3311 days ago (October 31st, 2008)
Thanks
I am pleased you stopped by. Thanks for the listen.
Peace
Guy
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guitapick said 3311 days ago (October 31st, 2008)
~
Dig the chord progression and solos

We had a similar expose of the horrible conditions, here in the States. Unreal...

Glad you got this one out, Guy.
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guygrooves said 3311 days ago (October 31st, 2008)
Thanks bro
I appreciate the comment and I am flattered you took the time for a listen. I am a fan of your work, and waiting for the announcement that your album has dropped.
Peace
Guy
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kristyjo said 3311 days ago (October 31st, 2008)
Really rockin'
And there's nothing like a story to get an idea across. I like the juxtaposition of the dark story with the happy lyrics. A little ironic, and the sugar coating gets you to take the pill, as it were. I am glad you posted the lyrics.
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guygrooves said 3311 days ago (October 31st, 2008)
thanks KJ
I am pleased you stopped by for a listen. I am not quite sure what you mean by happy lyrics lol. I will for now assume you meant melody, as chronologic mentioned, and I must admit I hadn't thought about it until I got most of the song together and thought to myself that the music seemed a little jovial, (to quote chronologic). I decided it may work after all, and went ahead with finishing it. I must say I did mull it over for sometime before I did though. I am still going to try it with a modified effect on the vocals, and transpose the melody to a darker key at some point. Thank you very much for the listen and kind words.
Peace
Guy
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kristyjo said 3309 days ago (November 2nd, 2008)
Yes-
I DID mean melody. And, no, I am not on any 'calming' drugs today. :)
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Godchaser said 3311 days ago (October 31st, 2008)
Medication Time
Nice piece of pill poppin'work my friend.Love the guitar tones and the strong,drivin' pulse.Solid post overall and a subject matter I've dedicated a fair share of my life involved in.My 9 to 5 is spent among a population of individuals that require constant surpervision and regular drug intervention.
Factiod:Those dark days of institutionalized people were in large part a direct result of the faulty idea of eugenics as put into practice by Hitler's Germany and brought over to the West by American "scientists" eager to also 'experiment'.The 'religion' of Darwinism was at it's core and continues to undermind observable science,public education and the morality of the society to this day.God help us!


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guygrooves said 3311 days ago (October 31st, 2008)
Thanks
for the thoughtful and kind comment on the song. I appreciate the listen and I am thankful that you do what you do. I too believe that what happened in Germany played a large part in what was going on in our institutions after the war for many years. I also wish for God to help us, but you know as well as I do it won't happen until we help ourselves. Thank you for doing what you do.
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Guy
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kingbee said 3311 days ago (November 1st, 2008)
great song
Love the riff.
Very catchy.
Would just second the comments about the vocals.
Double track with clean effect??
Apart from that everything sounds great especially the guitars
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guygrooves said 3311 days ago (November 1st, 2008)
Thanks King....
It looks as though it is becoming the consensus regarding the lyrics. It is exactly why I love this place. Thanks for the listen and kind comment.
Peace
Guy
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tokai said 3311 days ago (November 1st, 2008)
Like the concept
and the song you made around it. Good rockin tune with an excellent arrangement and guitar parts.
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guygrooves said 3311 days ago (November 1st, 2008)
Thanks
I am pleased to meet you. Thanks for the listen and kind words.
Peace
Guy
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Pete_NB said 3309 days ago (November 3rd, 2008)
In your face
Both the concept of the song and the wall of sound. I can dig it!

It's a dark concept but if I hadn't read the intro or the lyrics I wouldn't have really known. Though one link to the subject matter might be the vocals. They sound like they are coming from deep within the song, hard to hear, almost like a plea for help from someone trapped in one of those hellish institutions.

The guitars are great in this. The rhythm is thick attitude and the lead is just torn off with reckless abandon and skill.
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guygrooves said 3308 days ago (November 3rd, 2008)
Thanks Pete
I am happy you made it by for a listen. It looks like this one is gonna get a re record and with all the advice on it so far, it will get better. I love this place for that. Thanks for the kind words, and the perspective, I do appreciate it.
Peace
Guy
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Vic Holman said 3307 days ago (November 4th, 2008)
my meds
jeez these pages fly by too fast. Glad i backed up to find this.

i dig the edgy feel here. very appropriate for the song. and yeah, the distorted vocals are perfectly suited to the sound.
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guygrooves said 3272 days ago (December 10th, 2008)
Thanks Vic
I know what you mean about having to back track lol. I am so behind it is scary lol. Thanks for the listen and kind words.
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Guy
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mvh9591 said 3290 days ago (November 21st, 2008)
Very nice___
Nice grove and the vocal effects work well. Mix is awesome.

Thanks for sharing,

mvh : )
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guygrooves said 3272 days ago (December 10th, 2008)
Hey Michael
I'm happy you made it by.
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bella_sunshine said 3272 days ago (December 10th, 2008)
Sickening truths....
I have watched those same documentaries that reveal our societies tortures against their own. Many young people spent their lives there, simply because they were an inconvinience to others...if they were not "mad" upon arrival, they would soon become so. Still today, they will not give out information about family members who lived and died there. They would prefer their secrets to die with their shame. You captured the haunting reality with perfection.
guygrooves said 3272 days ago (December 10th, 2008)
hey bella
I am happy you left a comment. I am also very glad you feel this song captured the reality of the situation. My brother thought so too.
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ted23 said 3229 days ago (January 22nd, 2009)
Guitar
Great distorted guitar tone! What are you playing though?
I dig the melody so much and the "boppyness" to the tune as it rocks along.

Reading the description i was expecting a dark tune and thats not what i got. I actually lifted my spirits?! :)
nice rocking!
guygrooves said 3227 days ago (January 23rd, 2009)
Hey Ted
I have mixed reviews about the upbeat melody of this one, so I am wondering if its a happy mistake, or something I should eventually transpose to a darker key lol.

I am recording through a digitech RP 350 straight in, stereo XLR inputs, using a slightly modified preset called "greaser" as well as guitar rig 2 on the rhythm tracks set up with a technique Chris Cihon "PickQuickRecords" shared with us all a few months ago. If you ask him he'll give you his technique which is "killer" The thread might still be in the archives but I wouldn't know where to find it. Thanks for stopping by bro.
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3228 days ago (January 23rd, 2009)
Processed vocal...
...man I've been trying to get that awesome processed vocal for ever and a day! This song rocks. The edge on the guitars is fabulous, shiny and just right.

Keep on rockin'

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guygrooves said 3227 days ago (January 23rd, 2009)
Hey Paddy
Some like it, some don't lol. I just experimented until I found something I liked, it started with a preset in Ozone 3 I think it's called "bad phone" lol. I then hit it with a variety of processors until it settled. I was going for a sound I heard with on couple of rsorenson's tunes but couldn't tweak it into submisson, but it still worked out well regardless. Thanks for the visit bro.
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Guy
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sloparts said 3186 days ago (March 5th, 2009)
Hell of a song Guy
Great lyrics and the Vox treatment is like being in her head listening to the world outside. Love the music you did on this, it's just a great work all around.

Killer song Guy, Bravo

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guygrooves said 3186 days ago (March 5th, 2009)
Thanks Ed
That's actually what I was trying for although it has mixed reviews and some good advice. I think it will get a re record one day but not soon lol no time.
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Guy
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ste said 2750 days ago (May 16th, 2010)
good bass
line to this one. like the vocal effect. good concept, good song
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CIASM_ZENABI_ said 2692 days ago (July 13th, 2010)
dream
like the main riff and vocal interaction. like your style a lot. vocal is very believable. i have quickly come to recognise your style. very good stuff. cheers
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jdholliday said 2487 days ago (February 3rd, 2011)
Wow
you were hittin' the ground runnin' on this one, great piece!
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tmcfate said 2111 days ago (February 14th, 2012)
i like
the feel of this the midrange grind has a way with me. and you story and political side is something i wasnt aware of. great sound and your voice fits very well in the mix and tone. i like the little warble around 245. one of my favorites of yours
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