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Eggshell 2009 (MJRF)
© 2005 Neil Porter

Partly as a result of the MJRF and partly from getting songs together for CD#2, I’ve been trawling my back catalogue for songs to bring out of the dark fog of my earlier mixing skills. This is the second of these songs (“Too Many Ghosts” was the first). First posted in September 2005.

Back in 2005 when I first posted this ( http://www.macjams.com/song/15122 ), Fran Dagostino left a comment that I took as an offer to play some guitar on it, which I gladly followed up. The result ( http://www.macjams.com/song/15651 ) was some good playing (especially the guitar) but a pretty lack-lustre production. I think I’ve remedied that in this version. At the time I was amazed that Fran would even consider playing on my song.

I wanted to keep the general feel of the original, but to change the style a little and bring in a little more light and shade.. I also wanted to add some other musicians – live drums and live keys – and asked Mike Watkins (kevmikwa) and John Libby (ktb) if they’d help out on drums and keys respectively. With Fran’s permission, I also re-jigged his original guitar tracks (he sent six separate guitar tracks so I had lots to choose from) to fit the new feel. Needless to say the parts from all these gents fitted perfectly – the more I play it, the more I especially love John’s piano track. Thanks guys!

To me it’s a far better and more “mature” piece now than it’s ever been before thanks to John, Mike and Fran.

A production note: there are 7 vocal tracks; 9 guitar tracks; 3 keyboard tracks; 3 percussion tracks 5 drum tracks and two bass tracks – never all at once I must emphasise.

Notes from the first post:
“Another week of new Australian anti-terrorism laws, new Industrial Relations laws, raids and arrests of alleged terrorists in Sydney and Melbourne, riots in France. The thing is, I suspect our governments (like the terrorists) have a big stake in making us all nervous. Doing the Eggshell Walk seems to be a part of life these days - or perhaps its just my paranoia!

Don't forget to dance in the refrain and sing along to the chorus!!

Guitars, bass, drums.

Song art: Walking on Eggshells by Kath Kornelsen Rutherford

PLAY IT VERY VERY LOUD (and keep an eye out for strange men lurking on the street).!”

Notes from the second post:
“This one was posted a few weeks ago, and, although I was happy with how it turned out, it seemed to have somewhere else to go. When ziti agreed to play what I expected to be a straight lead break, I thought that might help. Little did I know that Fran would take the song by the scruff of the neck and in the process, take it somewhere else altogether! For me, this has been a rare insight into the impact that a seriously skilled player can have on a simple song. Fran plays 6 guitar tracks here – listen for the held note in the intro, the sirens in verse 2 and the intensity of the solo. I am so proud of how this has turned out.

Play this at that volume just short of your ears starting to bleed!”

I apologise for the exhortations to play it loud, but it does kind of sound better ☺
Hope you like it.

Thanks for a brilliant MacJams Reunion Festival - which is now officially closed.

Neil
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Lyrics
Doing The Eggshell Walk
© 11/2005 Neil Porter

We lie awake at daybreak
And you ask me how the world gets on outside
Another shattered marketplace
Another scattered day of broken lives

I’m scared to turn the news on
In the morning
Don’t know what might happen
In my sleep
They’ve got you and me
Doing the Eggshell Walk
Doesn’t seem like
Freedom much to me

Streets of Paris burning
Someone else’s city, could be yours
A signal of frustration
With the growing gap dividing rich and poor

I’m scared to turn the news on
In the morning
Don’t know what might happen
In my sleep
They’ve got you and me
Doing the Eggshell Walk
Doesn’t seem like
Freedom much to me

They send ‘em home in body bags
2000 already, there’ll be more
We don’t count the other side
30,000 people, that’s the score

Getting scared to wake up
In the morning
Anything could happen
In your sleep
They’ve got you and me
Doing the Eggshell Walk
Doesn’t seem like
Freedom much to me

You put one foot forward
And you look around
You shade your eyes
And you test the ground
You jump at shadows
And you shy at sounds
If you wonder why you’re dancing
You’re doing the Eggshell Walk

Starting to get angry
In the morning
Starting to have nightmares
In my sleep
They’ve got you and me
Doing the Eggshell Walk
Seems like an unholy mess to me

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Fans: 38
Plays: 134
Downloads: 136

Uploaded: Feb 15, 2009 - 02:04:15 AM
Last Updated: Feb 15, 2009 - 03:03:23 AM Last Played: Jul 13, 2017 - 12:21:19 PM
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Comments
futzpucker said 3169 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
Excellent
This is a wonderful, rich song. So much great stuff going on, nothing in the way of anything else. The text is very poignant, very well written, and perfectly fits the insistent, slightly distressful mood of the song.

I've always loved your very unique voice, Neil, and your harmony here is very effective. The all-star cast all did wonderful work for you, top to bottom. Drums, bass, guitars and piano... everyone plays great and sounds great.
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Dj French Toast said 3169 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
Hey Umma-Jiguma :)
Doin the eggshell walk .....cool lyrics .....nice and loud for sure . I like your voice on this song alot . Cool jam in the middle as well :) I dig it all around man .

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bug67 said 3169 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
Neil...
...And the rest of you, thanks for ANOTHER mega-collab! :) there have been quite a few and they've all been spectacular!

“Another week of new Australian anti-terrorism laws, new Industrial Relations laws, raids and arrests of alleged terrorists in Sydney and Melbourne, riots in France. The thing is, I suspect our governments (like the terrorists) have a big stake in making us all nervous. Doing the Eggshell Walk seems to be a part of life these days - or perhaps its just my paranoia!"

We're feeling it particularly hard (at least I am) here in the US. I feel, personally, that our government has taken our fear and used it as an excuse to keep us under their thumbs. It is, in my opinion, become a fascist state. For example, I have to have 5 different ID cards on my person at all times just so I can get through "security" to go to work. I have to subject myself to vehicular and personal searches. Some of the people I know who are more bent to the right use the argument that they'd "rather be subject to search than be attacked by terrorists." B-effin'-S! It's an excuse for the government to keep us all under their increasing control and to keep us scared! They don't want us having our rights. If a people are truly free, the government loses control.

Anyhow, enough of my rant. Thank you, Neil, for the best time I've ever had on this site and, thanks for the wonderful music.

Dave


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Feter said 3169 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
Doing The Eggshell Walk
Another super group ...man what a reunion fest Sir ..great rockin song
my friend ..certainly this is a perfect production with the one of the
best people around to sit in ..very thoughtful ...all just incredible ..
the solo fries all ...thnx alot for sharin !!!!
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Willywagga said 3169 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
Great Voice
Everything about this is great. Nice blending of voices. The bass is very smooth.
Lyrics are direct and honest.
Really great song.
Super cool.



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dirigent said 3169 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
Eggshell Walk
What a great song, love the songwriting :-) Walking on eggshells - unique lyrics - full of creativity!! Enjoyed the arrangement, the track is really very well delivered throughout - and carefully produced. Amazing work!
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SmokeyVW said 3169 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
thanks guys!
great production

the lyrics are chilling

thanks


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lavalamp said 3168 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
be back later
can't crank it now...:( Like what I hear though.

LL
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lavalamp said 3168 days ago (February 16th, 2009)
That's more like it...
...cranked it this time...Very GOOD Song, mate.

LL
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ktb said 3168 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
all the elements
Neil, one of the things I love is you used all the tracks at your command in all the right places, introducing each instrument to keep it flowing and creating a lush build. My fav is when Z starts to solo and I can almost see the leslies start to spin. Mike makes us sound like a real band :-) Thank you for the op to play on such a cool track.
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jiguma said 3168 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
John
Your piano track was a highlight of this for me, but somehow the volume in the mix isn't what I remember mixing. I'll do a repost soon and get it right.
Thanks for playing.
Neil
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Scott Carmichael said 3168 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
I like it very much Neil
I'm wondering about the drums?... Excellent perfect... you really lay things right where I try too... there is a consistent completeness to your songs... all element come together to form a greater sum... I love the arpeggiated guitar providing the pad underneath... TELE?...

and then I would be remiss, if I didn't give a sincere bow to the perfect seasoning Fran provides... I once saw a macjamer refer to Fran as "Same ol Same ol"... I listen to this and for the life of me, can't see where that character was coming from...

this solo and comping are brilliant...

Neil... citizen of the year!
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The Orbiting said 3168 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
One of my faves
This has always been one of my faves of yours and there's a new spaciousness to this version that I enjoy. The whole thing is just tremendously confident. I remember feeling very cynical and not particularly hopeful when you first released this. Now, I feel concerned but hopeful. It's a better place to be. People who spoke out, like you, are partially to thank for that, so thank you, Neil.

This is a groovy festival tune, too. I can almost see the sweaty crowd of people gyrating to the groove. Perfect choice for this event. Thank you for putting it on. It was wonderful to bring some old friends back!
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Vic Holman said 3168 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
bring it on home boyz
cool idea to get a cracker jack team together on this classic. sure takes it to another level.
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Warren Smith said 3168 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
New Old Story

This is a great new take on one of the more poignant political posts here at Macjams.

The hard thing to believe is that so many more eggshells have been broken since this first appeared in November 2005 ... and that alone makes it worth revisiting it again.
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Jim Bouchard said 3168 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
Well I tried playing not VERY VERY LOUD
And it still sounded good to me. I always ignore those "play loud" instructions. Luckily you don't need to instruct people to play this VERY VERY loud, since it sounds quite good without going to that extent. You may be a little hard of hearing, I suspect since you often put those play loud instructions on your songs.

This is a lot better than the original posting of this song. It's totally different to my mind, and it totally works. Very cool. Great drums and bass. A lot of shifty placement, sort of panning around all over the place. I feel like I'm in a leslie cabinet in a way, sort of turning around in one of those sort of slow motion cinematic rotating movements, I'm trying to think of what movie it is, but maybe it's one of those spy movies where the hero has been drugged by the bad guys and the room starts spinning. Wow, far out, I wonder why I had that image pop into my head while I'm listening to this? The section before the guitar solo is really great, rock solid bass all throughout.

The one nit (and you know me, there's always one) is that Fran's solo should be a lot louder, really in your face. It would probably mean that the rest of the instruments would have to be taken down and it sounds like you might have gotten to a point where there wasn't any room to boost the solo without peaking. It's not that big a deal, his playing stands out because it's so very stellar, but I just thought that the solo should be sitting on top a tiny bit more. Just my opinion, of course. Just didn't want you to think I wasn't listening... :) If you're going to remis this and repost it, that's one thing...
I just noticed you told ktb that you wanted to make the keys a little more prominent. You might try bringing down the acoustic guitar(s) ( or is that fingerpicked electric?) to make more room in the mix. Slightly bring down the drums and bass maybe but not too much. I know the acoustic picking pattern is sort of a foundation of the song, but I think you could take it down a fair bit and it would still have enough presence because they are on the top edge of the mix. And then you would have the keys and guitar solo stand out more.
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jiguma said 3168 days ago (February 15th, 2009)
Thanks Jim
for the suggestions, all of which I'll play with for a new version, whether it's reposted here or on the CD.

Its funny - I have spent so much time mixing this and tweaking Fran and John's parts in particular, and I really thought I had it right. Then, about an hour before I posted it, I had a brainwave to drop all the volumes except the kit, and, being in a bit of a hurry by that stage, I didn't really have a good enough listen to the final result.

I think I'll have a few days break from it to clear the head (I'm working on three others at the moment) and then spend an hour or two with fresh, "morning ears" to see if I can get it just right.

The "play it loud" comment has now become a bit of bait to attract your attention Jim :)

Thanks again - I really appreciate such constructive comment.

Cheers,
Neil
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jazzman1 said 3168 days ago (February 16th, 2009)
Very Thought Provoking
I love your style of writing. Very relevant song for the time.
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Ed Hannifin said 3167 days ago (February 16th, 2009)
Well here I am...
...listening just before breakfast and wearing my best headphones, and I think you've really got a neat mix here. In bringing up the drum kit, and in whatever you've done with the drums as regards reverb, there is really nice air in the drums...

You've also got real edge in your vocal...

I have always thought this was a well wrought set of lyrics, Neil... I seem to recall that in the original version(s) my impression was that the tune was largely carried or held together by the bass... On this one, there's more balance in the propulsion...

I think Jim has a point in that just a smidge more Fran at the solo would be cool... And to use Jim's favorite word, that's a 'nit'...

I really like the bit of outro electric guitar...

Ed
jiguma said 3166 days ago (February 17th, 2009)
There you are indeed!
Nifty pic Ed :)

I'm in the middle - well, near the end really - of a new improved mix, where Fran is LOUD, John is AUDIBLE and Mike finishes 2 bars earlier compared to Fran.

This is one of my favourites, and makes me wonder what happened to the more unusual ideas I had back then. Work seemed to feed the inventiveness somehow.

As always, thanks for listening and leaving your mark ;)

Neil
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jiguma said 3165 days ago (February 18th, 2009)
Updated mix
Ed, there's an better mix (MUCH more of Fran!) on my Reverbnation site if you want to have a listen http://www.reverbnation.com/jiguma
:)
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jiguma said 3165 days ago (February 18th, 2009)
although
you might prefer the design of the Myspace page http://profile.myspace.com/neilporterjiguma

;)
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davisamerica said 3167 days ago (February 16th, 2009)
neil
topical ... and very nice track
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lengold said 3167 days ago (February 16th, 2009)
Really pleased
you redone this - never heard the original - but this is great in every way. Downloaded. Thanks.
Cheers
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Moviz said 3167 days ago (February 16th, 2009)
Lovely clean sound
seeing that there are so many tracks.... everything perfectly in it's place. Love the guitars sounds and all the backing, vocals are great too and of course your lyrics are always tops, cheers M
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dajama said 3167 days ago (February 16th, 2009)
Sweet
Great song, and lyrics that are pointed, relevant, and downright incisive. Lovely mix and production, and everything seems nicely placed, with lots of space for each element to breathe. The bass sounds particularly lovely on this one. Maybe the solo could be a little louder? But just a minor thing. Drums are excellent, and really give the track a live feel. The musicianship overall is of such a high standard - mind-boggling. Fantastic stuff. Glad you decided to redo this one. Great song, and terrific performances. Kudos to everyone involved. Nicely done. Peace.
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kevmikwa said 3167 days ago (February 16th, 2009)
Someday ...
I am looking forward to the day (and it IS coming) where I have more time to give to these collabs. It's probably not right for me to take on collabs when time is short. Thanks to jig for his patience.

Neil has said nice things about the drums, but I think we both wish we had a different take on the outro. I took some swings at it where I was trying to channel Neil Peart. Neil (Porter) politely refocused me. I was fully intending to take another cut at it (more drive, less flash) but it just didn't work out. Listening back, I wish I could have snuck in the time to have made it happen. The current drum ending is a little distracting IMHO. At the least, I definitely should have been out two bars earlier, at the beginning of Fran’s final reappearance. Other than that, I'm pleased with the way Neil incorporated the drums into the track. I think the hats are a smidge hot, and I find that I miss the stereo field (panning of toms/overheads), but those are nits - everything is present and defined.

The rest of the track is sick - such a rich tapestry, made from a number of very fine threads. What I wouldn't give to run Logic on Neil's comp and solo out each track. Obviously, Fran's guitars are perfectly crafted and could not suit the track any better. I'm a little sad that ktb's keyboards were not as in-front as they were in the reference track that I played to ... I miss the presence of some of his passages (like the off-16th turn in the middle of each chorus). Neil's signature vocals, rhythmic guitars and excellent songwriting sense is the reason I'll appear on every collab he invites me to be a part of.

Thanks to those who have said nice things about the drum bits.
jiguma said 3167 days ago (February 16th, 2009)
Mike
At least we got the toms in :) We'll have to investigate the panning of the drums further - I attempted to do some, but didn't really have the confidence to push too far. The placement of all these tracks across the sound stage was a nightmare as you can imagine.

You should be careful saying you'll play on whatever I offer Mike - I might offer EVERY song, and then you'd be seriously out of time.

It's always a pleasure working with you on this stuff - the delays were not a problem for me at all.

Remember: "Family First"!

Cheers from Oz,
Neil
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jiguma said 3166 days ago (February 17th, 2009)
Mike
All is fixed (he said hopefully) in the new mix which I'll post soon.

:)
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Joe Brady said 3167 days ago (February 16th, 2009)
this song immediately grabbed me....
I took a look at the lyrics before I listened and immediately identified with the sentiment; the production is superb; great harmonies and really love the percussion/drum work. Guitar lead is awesome; but the strength of the song, the lyrics, just make too much sense and they are sung with a fearless conviction. Congrats on a wonderful reunion Neil, so many great players came back and I'm really enjoying it.
Cheers mate,

Joe
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Dadai.2 said 3167 days ago (February 16th, 2009)
Damn...

good!

Jack
tempie said 3166 days ago (February 17th, 2009)
eggshells
i don't normally like "social issue" songs because they tend to be didactic and oversimplify but this reads more like on the street observation than social criticism, doesn't bang you over the head with anything so it works.

musically, great 80's prog/classic rock vibe. i hear early 80's Genesis for sure - prog but melodic and accessible. really like the change at "scared to turn the news on in the morning"...i like your voice too - it's smooth and tuneful but also has a menacing quality that i think makes it really interesting.
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Roxylee said 3166 days ago (February 17th, 2009)
Signs of the times
Yeh, listening to the news can be scary, and it is quite an unholy mess.. I love the guitar work in this. you're right- turn up headphones loud!
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magnatone said 3166 days ago (February 17th, 2009)
Eggshell Walk
WOW - i almost missed this - what a shame that would've been! Incredible collab by some of my most fave MJ'ers. Wonderful....um...everything (sorry, all I'll do is gush, so I'll spare you) Thanks guys!
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sloparts said 3166 days ago (February 17th, 2009)
Wow
What a song. Love the lyrics, music, mix, the whole thing. Great work by all and I especially like your vocal on this one my friend. Outstanding work in every way.

Kudos to all, but especially to you Neil for the song and this Reunion Festival.

Ed
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SISTERS said 3166 days ago (February 18th, 2009)
ain't it the truth?
brilliant lyrics, neil - you've done it again!
cool harmony. kevin's percussion adds some important beef.
you've got some interesting changes going on here - steller guitar solo!
thanks for another peep into your aussie mind.
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thoddi said 3165 days ago (February 19th, 2009)
cool riff
That guitar riff at start reminded me immediately of a song by a norwegian band called de lillos. Their song with a similar riff was used in a commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M58lc_jwfhs

Great guitar playing, arrangements and production. Good song with a thoughtful theme.
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Outtaorbit said 3165 days ago (February 19th, 2009)
Careful
where you step.... nicely done
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Willywagga said 3163 days ago (February 20th, 2009)
Brilliant
Yes it is.

And to add, I'm reminded of XTC which is great for me and I'm not sure where that comes from,maybe the sentiment, maybe it's the way you sing.
Love the song, great bass line, rumbles a bit at times, and I'm only thinking that because I see this on a cd,in my head.

Greaty

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Char said 3069 days ago (May 26th, 2009)
This was
uniquely yours, Neil. Great writing. Are you famous in Australia? You should be! Great band. Thanks.
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jiguma said 3068 days ago (May 27th, 2009)
:)
Hi Char, thanks for the lovely comment :) I'd be happy being famous in my street, but thanks for the positive question.
Great band indeed!
Neil
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