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Lost In Translation (w Mike Watkins)


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In September this year we spent 2 months in a friend's place in Switzerland - the French-speaking part - as well as some time walking in France and visiting friends near Paris and in Amsterdam, and attending a wedding in Germany. Apart from our 2 weeks in Amsterdam and the week in Germany, we were very much immersed in a French-language environment.

Tobin commented at one stage that it would be interesting to hear what sort of music my time in Europe would produce - and the pressure was on to start writing (in a good way!). I wrote 4 or 5 songs in Switzerland - 3 of which are either finished or near completion. This is the first.

It's about the joy I have in being in a linguistic environment where I'm limited by my language skills - I understand a lot of what's going on around me in French (more in German) - TV shows, conversations in the supermarket, announcements at railway stations etc - but there's always a good 50% I don't understand. I really enjoy the sense of freedom that gives me. The song's also about the cultural differences - "do I offer my cheek, do I offer my hand?".

We met up with MJer Blaky Smith (Marc) who lives just over the French border near where we were staying in Switzerland and met up with him for a great day in the Jura countryside. He will be posting his version of this tomorrow - very different in sound and meaning to this, but definitely a terrific listen - i seemed very appropriate to have a French language version at MJ as well. Here it is: ("Sur le Sable")

"Looking for signs of life" became a theme in my Swiss songs - the next one is called "Signs Of Life".

Almost forgot to mention, the drumming here is by Mike Watkins (kevmikwa) - I'm sure he'll make some comments about the details further down the page. Mike is a dream to collaborate with - always supportive, always producing killer drum tracks, and a nice guy to boot.

A remixed, much higher quality version of "Lost In Translation" is available here for download: HERE.

Hope you enjoy this.
Neil
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Lyrics
Lost In Translation
© 2009 Neil Porter

I’m thinking in tongues
That I don’t understand
I’m speaking in some of them too
Do I offer my cheek?
Do I offer my hand?
I’m lost in translation

If I get in your way
I’m just chasing some dreams
I’ve caught up with some of them
In perpetual motion
Life’s perpetual change
I get lost in translation

We might just be waiting for clues
Out and about and avoiding the blues
Might just be searching,
Looking for some signs of life

I’ve done this before
And I’ll do it again
I’ll never get tired of this
Like my father before me
Come back to this land
To get lost in translation

You want clarification
It’s not in my game
I like dealing in tangents and dreams
Without plans or proposals
Like to follow the wind
I get lost in translation

We might just be waiting for clues
Out and about and avoiding the blues
Might just be searching,
Looking for some signs of life

You might come here to wonder
At mountains and streams
For the cafés and nightlife and bars
But when I step off the plane
I'm just longing to be
Lost in translation

I’m lost in translation
Lost in translation
Lost in translation
Lost in translation
Lost in translation
etc
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Uploaded: Nov 11, 2009 - 08:36:51 PM
Last Updated: Feb 25, 2010 - 09:08:08 PM Last Played: Oct 19, 2017 - 05:28:26 AM
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Comments
VicDiesel said 2957 days ago (November 11th, 2009)
The movie
by that title plays in Japan, where you'll be sure to understand nothing.

Maybe missing a shade of meaning is more interesting than missing any semblance of clue. Cool song, and indeed, killer drum tracks. They are also very nicely mixed. Very very.
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jiguma said 2957 days ago (November 11th, 2009)
Thanks for the listen Vic
Jan, my wife, mentioned the movie title (great movie it was too). I'm afraid in Japan I'd also understand nothing at all.
I love the uncertainty of being immersed in either French or German - every sentence understood just makes you feel good somehow :)
Mike's drums are, for me, the icing on the cake here. He sure knows how to hit stuff.
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dave_b said 2957 days ago (November 11th, 2009)
Lost In Translation
Wow this is really first-rate. Cool hook, and the song develops it perfectly. Drums/bass are locked up and chock full of the good things that make live instrument tracks more compelling then midi. Electrics add a nice flavor up top - like the break where the two lines are intertwining. Big sound, lots of depth. Thanks, enjoyed this a lot.
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jiguma said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
Thanks for dropping by Dave
Live instruments are certainly my preference - just so lucky to have access to Mike's drumming. Would love to have a chance to play live with him, but there's this big ocean between us :)
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Feter said 2957 days ago (November 11th, 2009)
Lost In Translation
Back for second listen ...for some reasons what
-ever you do it turns wonderful ..this sounds
more panned ...again ..thhoughtful and deep as
a protest song ..not surer why but its your
singing and the chords ? .cool solid drums
..great gem my friend
thnx alot for sharin !!!!
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jiguma said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
2 visits!
Feter, thanks for both this comment and your listen and comment on the earlier version I posted. Lucky I noticed the glitch and that Mike was able to help me out by making a simple/obvious suggestion that I hadn't thought of.
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Vic Holman said 2957 days ago (November 11th, 2009)
i understood every word
so no linguistic problem for me.:-)

this is a powerhouse of a song. excellent mix and performance. and a touch of the forboding adds to the whole meaning of the song.
Mikes drums are really great.
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jiguma said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
Vic
Im really pleased to be able to post a new song - it's been a while. Have been more focussing on playing live lately - a little more challenging than sitting in my studio with my Mac, that's for sure!
Cheers from Oz.
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magnatone said 2957 days ago (November 11th, 2009)
Lost in Translation
oh wow Neil - this is just GREAT! Mike's percussion is spot on, of course - I love the energy in here, and having heard an early version of what you'll post tomorrow, i really get the two different "translations". i so wish i would've had the chops to come in on this - thanks for giving me a shot. i LOVE this version and can't wait for tomorrow's!
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jiguma said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
Thanks Karen
I'm really looking forward to having Marc's version up too - although it's different lyrically (apart from being in French of course) it also has his smooth style about it. It was interesting meeting Marc in real life - he seems to have the same feeling about the "lost in translation" idea. It was fascinating to meet the second person (Alf was the first) who I'd met "virtually" in real life and find they are pretty much just what you expected. Maybe personalities do creep through the screen at us - now THERE's a song!
:)
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jiguma said 2867 days ago (February 10th, 2010)
Just noticed
Marc is actually the THIRD MJer I've met in real life - sorry Ross (Myshkin)!
:)
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Char said 2957 days ago (November 11th, 2009)
I forgot
what I said before. Love the whole package. Thanks.
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jiguma said 2957 days ago (November 11th, 2009)
I forgot
Me too Char, but it was very nice and I was chuffed that you said it. Thanks!
Neil
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musichead said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
6/8 time
I love writing in 6/8 time. It just always flows nice. Just like this song. Great tune,,,thanks for sharing


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jiguma said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
Hi Steve
Thanks for the listen and comment - I also love the feel, and really enjoy writing this way. It was written on an old nylon string guitar I found in the house we were living in - beautiful tone despite strings that were about to break. "Flows nice" is good - thanks.
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musicmarket said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
Thoughts from Berlin.
Guten Tag Neil. And Hello!

......man man......::: Now again I have to comment on a song by Jiguma... after....(..) a very very long time.
If i read your description, about the joy you had, to get "lost in translation".. i can share your thoughts, can understand the sense of freedom that it gives.. I traveled across eastern-europe during the summer....

What I enjoy most: the moment the acoustic-guitar comes in... first chorus... and then... the guitar stays for the 2. vers.... very very clever Neil..... ;-)
at this moment, the balance between musical moods and lyrical content is perfect...

its very peaceful, thoughtfully, and what i like, is this little "melancholic" undertone.......
really brillant...

and with the solo-part... you "open" the song, change its direction.... into a soundtrack to walk to, through foreign citys, foreign streets....

I don´t want to talk about the production.. i think, i praised enough.... ;-) Oké?

Neil. I wish i could describe it better.... but i´m always 50% lost in........

Very very good work.... i could be envious.....
Best from Berlin.
Olaf
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jiguma said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
Grüss dich Olaf
I'm glad someone here can relate to the "lost in translation" feeling. I could quite happily spend months (or years if I could figure out how to do it) lost in translation. The best part was spending time with people who only speak similar amounts of English as I do their language. Marc (Blaky Smith) in France, our neighbours in Switzerland, our friend Marie-T near Paris, our "exchange daughter's" family and friends in Birchenau in Germany - all good and all so much more satisfying than looking at the tourist attractions.

By the way, I hope you enjoyed the Wall celebrations - we were watching Tageschau on Deutsche Welle TV. We were in Berlin Ost in 1976 - things sure have changed!

Alles gute.
Neil
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DWL said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
Excellent!
Great lyrics and a great performance.

I loved the soft vocals and the guitar work is exceptional and the drums work so well.

Wonderful work Neil!

Cheers

Dick
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jiguma said 2954 days ago (November 15th, 2009)
Thanks Dick
I always appreciate your comments, especially when they are so gracious. It's nice to be back posting again.
N
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TobinMueller said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
6/8 and great collab
The 6/8 feel is compelling, and I love the way you leave so much space in the accompaniment. The lyrics are an interesting mix of self-excuse and self-explanation, an overriding sense, on one level, to be simply left alone, unbothered, from both oneself and others. Reminds me of a Dylanesque theme. But what I like about the track, in comparison to your impressive body of work, is the arrangement, its sparsity, clarity, lack of cover-compression. You have indeed found a wonderful collab-mate.
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jiguma said 2954 days ago (November 15th, 2009)
Tobin
As I said in the intro, this song was a result of inspiration from your comment about songs and Switzerland a few months back. Up until then I hadn't been trying very hard to come up with anything, but after that I figured I had a great opportunity to write in a different environment (and it gave me something to do on the days we weren't out and about). The concept "lost in translation" kept morphing for me, and at various times meant/means various things - all positive by the way - including the difficulty in expressing feelings in song lyrics.

I'm really trying to get better mixes these days - not always successful, but getting better at it.

I've done quite a few songs with Mike now, and he is the dream collaborator, apart from being a great drummer, he is respectful of my ideas, and does his best to adjust and modify his playing if I hear something different to his early tracks (rarely happens of course). We are in the middle of another one at the moment with Thor and Alf (and maybe Anne). I would love to be able to play with Mike in a live situation. On top of everything else, he's a very nice guy.

Thanks for the listen Tobin - always appreciated.
N
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PrototypeEightyOne said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
nice
I like dealing in tangents and dreams. indeed.

I enjoyed the lyrics, vocals, guitar work and those drums were mixed in beautifully. Good stuff.
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jiguma said 2953 days ago (November 15th, 2009)
P81
Tangents and dreams sums up my lyrical approach I guess :)

Thanks for the listen and comment.
N
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Rasapriya said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
Lost in Translation
I like the theme of this song. Lyrics too. Good job on the overall production. Vocals really match the music.
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jiguma said 2953 days ago (November 15th, 2009)
Thanks for the visit Rick
Always good to get comments from people I haven't seen before - enjoyed your music too.
N
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kevmikwa said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
Can't take credit
First off - many thanks to you Neil for letting me tag along on this one. Virtually meeting you has been a real blessing in my life. All you do is write hits, IMHO.

I can't really take credit for the drum part here, as much as I'd like to. When Neil first presented me with his sketch for this song, it was against some drum loops that most of you probably already have in your arsenal: the "12-8 Jazzy Drumset" loops.

I quickly determined that I couldn't play the part with all of its intricacies to save my life (lots of grace notes), but the part was too perfect for the song to go any other way.

So, I set out to deconstruct it ... I made my own MIDI versions of loops 01, 03, 05 and 06 and put them together. I took Neil's advice about a straight feel over the guitar solo and played a simple ride part there. I also added all the fills and crash hits, playing those live on the v-drums.

So, while I did add some value (using my drum simulator, beat mapping and other customizations), the drumming credit really should go to some faceless drummer who made the loops for Apple.
jiguma said 2953 days ago (November 15th, 2009)
Whatever you say Mike!
although the difference between what you provided and what I started with was very significant indeed. I love the way you pass off "beat mapping and other customisations" so easily. I've tried beat mapping and I've tried deconstructing drum loops and making my own versions and the results 9 times out of 10 are ...... rubbish! You've turned a mechanical kit into a real life one, and it doesn't really matter how you did it, the result was really well done. AND we know you could have played it from scratch if you'd just been born with that extra arm :)

I really enjoy working with you Mike - it's an intelligent exchange of ideas every time, and the results always speak for themselves.

Thanks yet again!
Neil
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kevmikwa said 2953 days ago (November 15th, 2009)
Shucks
Too kind, as always. I'll try and limit the Mutual Admiration Society aspect of the post by keeping it simple: LIKEWISE, mate. Just promise me you'll always keep me in mind for collabs going forward.

Oh, and hey ... working on this song with you has made me a better drummer. After studying the "12-8 Jazzy" loop (and the score I made from the MIDI, a PDF of which can be found here), I am now finding that I can fake my way around the beat. So, thanks for that!
thoddi said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
Yes
This is very good. Cool drums:)
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jiguma said 2953 days ago (November 15th, 2009)
Thanks Thor
I think you might like my next post ;)
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I.G.M. said 2957 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
Wow Neil,
I like your music, I really do, but with this song you gave me some serious goose flesh...
It`s very well builded, pretty good vocals, some tasty guitar playing and Mike`s drums are absolutely spot on!!
This composition is great, especially the verse, a real master piece!!!
Somebody told me 6/8 is for relaxing...
...it`s for thinking, too.
Lyrics are moving, fit totally perfect.
YEAH!!
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jiguma said 2951 days ago (November 18th, 2009)
"goose flesh" -
wie sagt mann daß auf deutsch?

Thanks for the kind words Ingo - I love 12/8 and 6/8 too, they add a layer of meaning on their own, even without any words.

Grüße aus Australien
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I.G.M. said 2950 days ago (November 19th, 2009)
Kein Einheitsbrei!!
"Goose flesh" is "Gänsehaut" in german.

You`re right, 6/8 , 5/4, or even 9/8 time is very interesting.
And they can be very easy on the ear...
(Depends on what the composer is doing with them!)
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ConnieO said 2956 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
Lost In Translation
First thing that came to my mind was the movie also! But forgot about the movie once I listened to the killer song; fantastic drums; fantastic arrangement.
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Moviz said 2956 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
You sure
got some good inspiration on your tour Neil.... Always love your lyrics and this song sounds fantastic..... love that rhythm and accompaniment; production, regards M
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bud said 2956 days ago (November 12th, 2009)
Wow - pretty good stuff here Neil
the guitar break is wonderful - and I really liked the little lead into it - quite original. In fact this is a very unique song - defying categories and breaking new ground. Pretty darn cool. And you are right - Mike is an excellent drummer.
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blaky smith said 2956 days ago (November 13th, 2009)
I like
your expression "do I offer my cheek, do I offer my hand" which quite means...
I had scoop to listen to many times this song and you already know what I think of it. This piece is very nicely done on every way and your voice is in perfect harmony with your music and this style. Great addition with drumming by Mike...
With full knowledge I have to say you made a famous work and an attractive doubled with these 2 versions. The result reveals a great lot of talent.
You also give an interesting description of your feelings and your inspiration. If this genre of song is inspired by your immersion in an French-language environment, then come here more often!
Once again bravo Neil and thank you for all !
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Ed Hannifin said 2956 days ago (November 13th, 2009)
Nice all around, Neil...
And that covers a lot of ground...

The lyrics are really strong, for starters. The lead off line is particularly strong, and the theme that you carry through the song is thoughtfully worked, and doesn't feel clumsy or pretentious.

Then some of the chord changes are nice change-ups from the expected, so the music keeps surprising and taking one a step to the left of the conventional...

Vic's right--the drumming is really good. Then the whole rhythm track is sort of "latter day King Crimson playing behind Bruce Cockburn".... Your electric guitar chimes are neat, and the solo is really imaginative... Bass playing is in the pocket but sophisticated and propulsive.... The mix is smooth and has air and a nice sheen...

Nothing to nit pick over, and lots to like and appreciate....

Ed




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lengold said 2956 days ago (November 13th, 2009)
Really enjoying
this Neil.
Downloaded. Thanks.
Cheers
Len

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selters said 2956 days ago (November 13th, 2009)
Know the feeling!
Great to hear about your trip in Europe. Looking forward to hear Marc version in french as well! I am always impressed by your tight productions. The work om Mike is of course as good as it always is. The line "We might just be waiting for clues
Out and about and avoiding the blues
Might just be searching,
Looking for some signs of life" is very catchy, but also haunting in a way. Your songs always hold some sort of excitement and mystery. There seems like the singer (you!) always knows something the rest of the world doesn't. This is a great track, might be the best I have heard from you!

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michaelkoppenheffer said 2956 days ago (November 13th, 2009)
Terrific song
Great build-up of dynamics and then pull-back on last verse--the production here just sounds excellent, with wonderful drums, bass, lead guitar, as noted by everyone else. This is one of the best sounding tracks I've heard on MJ thus far--I'm totally impressed!
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maxruehl said 2956 days ago (November 13th, 2009)
Just
headed over from Marc's French version. I like both versions very much. What a terrific song.:)
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guitapick said 2955 days ago (November 13th, 2009)
Very cool....
...rhythmic shifts and textural changes...

"...We might just be waiting for clues
Out and about and avoiding the blues..."

You're really a serious poet, Neil.
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tokai said 2955 days ago (November 14th, 2009)
Lost
know that feeling.
All your songs have this real quality to them.
This has the sounds of a complex structure that moves along beautifully.
That guitar and those chords sound choice.
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richard13 said 2955 days ago (November 14th, 2009)
Lost in Translation: been there, done that
but didn't get a cool tune out of it. Nice work Neil, by both you and Mike. (The excursion sounds wonderful.)
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egobandit said 2954 days ago (November 14th, 2009)
Where to begin
MAn Im lost for words, this is so good! This goes on the Jiguma playlist thanks!!!!
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Sigmund said 2954 days ago (November 15th, 2009)
Maybe
Its the Swiss air, or the chocolate, but it has blessed you with this piece. Wonderful songwriting and performance - the drums sound great, and I really like that heavily chorused guitar sound - fills the space quite nicely.

Thanks for the share! - Sig
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Joe Brady said 2953 days ago (November 15th, 2009)
Very cool!
That guitar is reminding me of Richard Thompson with a touch of the Eagles; a real tribute to the time you've spent with the Telecaster. Great texture to the guitar and another real pleasant listen. Great job with drums Mike.
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jiguma said 2933 days ago (December 6th, 2009)
Joe
Thanks for noticing the Richard Thompson influence - on this and Signs Of Life, I semi-consciously had him in mind on the solo/duets. He is a brilliant player.
Neil
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johnnyblues said 2953 days ago (November 16th, 2009)
Awesome
Nice arrangement - especially like the chorus. Great Production. Great guitar work. Fantastic drumming and mix. Lyrics are good - all around great song!
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thetiler said 2952 days ago (November 16th, 2009)
you do nice and your consistent in terrific soft rock
truly some of the best singing soft rock that i've heard here at Mj. You get truly great tone in those guitar. Great texturing in the guitar and all the other instruments including your voice !

Thanks for sharing, interesting mysterious words that really seem to fit the music. Love the little things you put in the tune to add spice !

Way to go ! A true gem-Macjams guy you are !
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Rosita said 2952 days ago (November 17th, 2009)
Inspiration
Les voyages forment la jeunesse. Ils inspirent aussi les poetes et les musiciens. Tu donnes ici une belle preuve avec cette magnifique chanson.
Parfaite interpretation sur le plan vocal et musical. J aime beaucoup.
Ro

MannequinRaces said 2951 days ago (November 18th, 2009)
Lost In Translation (Jiguma)
One of your best Neil. Glad to see your trip yield some new tunes! My only gripe is that I would like to hear some harmony vocals in spots (more than what's toward the end). Great collaboration. Some cymbal blasts seem just a touch hot. The drum panning is nice and the playing is tasty. Well done Gents!
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SISTERS said 2951 days ago (November 18th, 2009)
well done!
love the rhythm to this!
mysterious melody, and that dip down at signs "of life" is exquisite.
something about that little dip makes me want to weep.
the percussion is fabulous - it moves this in a glorious way.
that guitar solo was great - i like the fact that is was a little bit extended in length. neil - you write so well. no throw away fluff, but real messages with brilliant phrasings. your voice simply just gets better and better. THIS EXPLODES WITH LIFE!
anne


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ledebutant said 2951 days ago (November 18th, 2009)
Fascinating
This is definitely you, but definitely different. I absolutely love the choice of note on "life" where you go down. I think, as a singer, you would usually make the choice to go up, so I'm wondering if you actually did that consciously or if it just happened. Either way, I love it. This sound very much like a lost Police song recorded when Sting was off in the bathroom or doing yoga or something. Stewart Copeland is one of my favorite drummers and I hear him in a lot in the way Mike's playing and good lord, do you sound like Andy Summers on the guitar parts after "signs of life."

Nice to hear that the change in environment gave you fresh ears, but still left the "you" in the music. Great work, both of you.
clementine said 2948 days ago (November 21st, 2009)
Thanks
Hi Neil. A great song with a very beautiful theme and nice lyrics ! Thanks a lot for the version you made for Marc. I find it does emphasize his voice in a very moving and intense way. He did love to work on it !
Congratulations, and maybe we'll meet the next time you go and visit Blaky Smith !
Gregory (Marc's son) and family
Doug Somers said 2921 days ago (December 18th, 2009)
Translated from inspiration to sound
You have a great style here Neil, not to mention the powerful songwriting. Brilliantly played and mixed. Mike's drums are spot on.

You mention the freedom of getting only 50% of a language, which is a cool perspective. How true.

I could hear CSN doing this number.

Take care,
Doug
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