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Smoking or Non (w/ Daugrin)


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awigze

 Genre: Political

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I first started working on this song, in 2007 around the middle of the campaign cycle. Bush was still in office and everything seemed to be political, even the air. This was about the time that the Democrats were duking it out in their roundhouse debates. Anyway, my wife and I were at the store and checking out and the cashier said, Paper or plastic? So I said. "uhmmm, paper," and my wife said, "Plastic." So on the way to the car, I was like, paper or plastic... paper or plastic? Then it made me think of the other choices we have on a daily basis. Table or booth? There was this Asian restaurant that my mother and her daughter in law used to make fun of the receptionist, She would say, "Table or booth, smoking or non?" So whenever we went to restaurants we would wait for just the right moment so we got to say the phrase to our dinner party and we would all chuckle. So by the time I turned the engine on in the parking lot, I was in full song-writing mode. Frantically I told Maureen, grab a pen and a pice of paper and write this down! We found a pen and a crumpled old paper CD sleeve and she began as I dictated. She, of course, thought that I had lost my mind. She is so patient. So we wrote a few stanzas. I committed it to my future projects file and forgot about it for a while. Then the election cycle started up and I began to notice more divisiveness in the rhetoric and in the two parties here in the United States. (I was really disappointed that Hillary did not get the nomination, because that would have been much more fun to watch.) As the political landscape evolved, so did the song. I sent this to Kent for his opinion and treatment. I was using some loops and wanted a more artistic rendering that he could bring to play. About a day later all these files started hitting my inbox. I was like, 'man, be careful what you wish for around the daug house'. He replaced the synth bass thing that I wrote with a bass guitar and saw that my drum loop that I was using had no low end, so he recorded kick drum and added a couple of guitar licks and some rhythm guitar. So, thanks daugrin. I hope it's close to what you were hearing. On March 16th I was on my way to work listening to the news and they played the clip by Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi during the 2010 Legislative Conference for National Association of Counties on 3/9/10. Anyway, thanks to Cheeto for snagging the audio for me. To be fair, I researched the speech and wanted to make sure that I did not take anything out of context. I have really brooded over this project, giving the song a great deal of treatment and consideration. I do realize that this song may offend some of my friends here (MacJams) who do not see the political landscape in quite the same way that I do. Many of which I have had some of my most creative moments with in collaborative projects. For this I am most grateful. I did not write this song to make anyone angry or to turn our friendship into controversy. I know that I do not have to post this song here. I can keep it on my little iPod and enjoy it all for myself and keep it low profile. But what's the point? And afterall, a friend of mine once said, "Hey, it's only Macjams." You know who you are. Thank you.

By the way, Cheeto has offered up a version of this song: http://www.macjams.com/song/59491
Thanks to Calchas for your ears.


http://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/pressreleases?id=1576 - The Pelosi speech in it's entirety.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/17/health/policy/17health.html
A balanced article of the new bill procedures adopted to deem the bill passed:



(creative disclaimer: I had the hardest time mixing this project. I fear that my hearing loss is worsening. This could be why I post so few songs of my own these days. So, if oyu hear something that is blatantly out of line, please feel free to divulge)
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Lyrics
Smoking or Non?

“But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."
-Nancy Pelosi

Smoking or Non
Table or booth
Paper or plastic
Im tellin the truth
Im tired of makin the choices
Iam makin each day.

Do I turn left
Or do I stay right.
Is it today or
Was it last night?
But I don’t want someone
Else to make that decision for me.

Global Warmin and
Second hand smoke
Conservative/liberal
I just wanna poke
Someone's ability to think
Like a real human being…

Well, it’s gotta be this or
It’s gotta be that.
Red state or blue state
And all that pork fat
Earmarks and concessions
Can take a big flyin’ leap

Don’t want to be told
What I ought to want
I live in this America
So what if you don’t?
I am not caring much
Just how you feel about that.

Is it democracy or is it mob rule
When ya take off the cloaks
And daggers of fools
They’re just power grabbers and
Don’t love this country no more.

So where did it start ?
And how will it end ?
When we kicked out the God
Who wants to be friends
The one who made us live whole and made us live free-
and know that it's blood that buys liberty.

Do I turn left
Or do I stay right.
Is it today or
Was it last night?
But I don’t want someone
Else to make that decision for me.
Do you know what I am saying?

Special thanks to The Honorable Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker of the House of Representatives.
© copyright 2010- Andy Wigzell
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Hits: 3660
Comments: 72
Fans: 25
Plays: 262
Downloads: 81
Votes: 3
Uploaded: Mar 18, 2010 - 09:13:59 PM
Last Updated: Mar 18, 2010 - 09:13:59 PM Last Played: Feb 23, 2017 - 06:56:51 PM
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Comments
crissew said 2741 days ago (March 18th, 2010)
Oh yeah
This song makes some really good points. doesnt matter much who we vote for, both parties, despite all their arguing agree on pretty much everything. They merely want to go about it while their party is in power. Much like rooting for your favorite sports team. I used to get angry, but now I am just apathetic. The US is undoubtedly on a rapid decline and our government is guiding us to that end as we sit on and watch.
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crissew said 2741 days ago (March 18th, 2010)
Now see what you did?
You went and made me get all philosophical. The song does raise some good questions though, very timely and germane. The illusion of left and right exist only to keep the few that are actually paying attention occupied. Enough to make one a conspiracy theorist.. well almost enough.
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awigze said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Charles
Thank you, sir. I am wondering, can you hear the rhythm guitar? I am hoping I didnt hide it by mistake. Daug was a real help on this. Understand the sentiment. Hope that everything works out.
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crissew said 2738 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
RE: rhythm guitar
yes, I can hear the rhythm guitar very clearly. It is subtle but adds a little p funk vibe to the piece.
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Char said 2741 days ago (March 18th, 2010)
Amazing.
Wonderful singing. That may be the longest prologue I've ever seen here. (Not criticizing, just observing.) Big Whoop, Andy Sax. :)
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awigze said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Char
Thanks Char. Glad you dropped by. I do get a bit wordy, don't I?
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dave_b said 2741 days ago (March 18th, 2010)
Smoking or Non
Smooth groove, nice complementary instrument choices, and well-mixed. It's been quiet around here for a few weeks, so it will be interesting to see what folks make out of your message.
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awigze said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Dave
It has been a bit quiet around here, huh. Daugrin made this tune roll.
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Outtaorbit said 2741 days ago (March 18th, 2010)
If 2 prayers get you out of work and into sunshine....????
Goodness....... pray all day.... easy
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awigze said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Patrick
you da one. and I know what you are sayin'
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michaeljayklein said 2741 days ago (March 18th, 2010)
Well done guys
What lovely times we live in....it's good that we can memorialize these things in music and you've done it splendidly. Thanks again, Michael
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awigze said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Michael
indeed! Only in Amreica.... Love this place. Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment.
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bud said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Cool track Andy
I swear I hear Frank Zappa jammin along with you - I think he's singing bass.
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awigze said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Bud
Ha! I was thinking of Frank when I was singing 'They're just power grabbers.... Must be all of his 200 Motels influence on me.
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Daugrin said 2740 days ago (March 20th, 2010)
Andy's Vocals
I thought this was drop dead funny when I heard Andy's original. Once we got rid of the loopy stuff he really cleaned up the timing and changed the character of the backdrop. Truth be known, this was once a mocking bird of a hoot! Great job on the production Andy!

Daug
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awigze said 2739 days ago (March 20th, 2010)
funny you say that daugrin
This tune was at first a kind of a hicksville, bluegrass of a tune. Then I accidentally dropped in the percussion loop and it was like, yeah yeah, hey, ya know what I am sayin?... I do! " and that was ll it took.
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davisamerica said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
hahahahahaha
this is totally a gas mr. sax ..... excellent mix and well played lyrical dialogue. Who loves ya brother? Downloaded and will see this gets into yer government file.
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awigze said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Jack
yes, along with your permanent entry into your temporary file. Who loves ya brother? You do! You know what Iam sayeeeeeng! daugrin is the gas on this.
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Jim Bouchard said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Where's the sax?
I used to play in a band that played a 30 minute version of Pharoah Sander's "The Creator Has a Master Plan" and this reminds me of that. I used to play a rhythm guitar part much like what I hear here, which means that
I can hear the rhythm guitar. Not exactly blown away by it but like Pharoah's song there's not a lot you can do with a two-chord song structure. The melody is nice and I expected to hear it reflected with a sax appearance. The singing is pretty loose and I felt like it would be more personal if it wasn't harmonized all through the song. The group feel of a bunch of voices singing these words sort of dilutes them, I think.
The lyrics are posing some interesting questions. I'm not quite down with what you're saying, but that's just me. Glad we live in a place where you can say it, though.
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awigze said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Jim
The sax was in the shed with the mower and powerwasher. I thought about throwing it in but that's all it would have been and the song was difficult to mix anyway for some reason and feel like I never really got it just right. I actually considered what you said about the vocals. I ended the song like that though but you are dead on with it. I think I held on to them too tightly though and so they remained. The song is not structured in the typical formula, so again you are correct in the 2 chord stucture. I think that can be chalked up my lack of creativity. At any rate, thanks for the comment and I too am glad anyone here in the US has the right to say what is on their mind.
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Daugrin said 2740 days ago (March 20th, 2010)
Hey Jim
That is a great point, subtle playing is never passe, really hard to do for some folks. Just enough to support the message is all I played. There are two tonal centers in my parts, dig being "audible" and moving in the mix, my role was to enable and stay out of the way.

Daug
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Cheeto said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Nice...
I really like this version Andy...i'm impressed turned out quite well..I like the laid back feel to it.
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awigze said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Thanks Cheeto
You're a freak! Thanks for the comment and also liked your handling of the lyrics too. Maybe someday we'll actually write a tune together [snicker]
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axljfoley said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
This Song
is smoking* Nice
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awigze said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
axlfoley
Thanks. appreciate you taking the time to listen and leave a comment.
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magnatone said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Smoking
great sound guys!
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awigze said 2741 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Magnatone
or non. Thanks Karen! Glad you were able to take a lsiten before your big moty trip!

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fasteddie said 2740 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
pork fat
Cool song ya'll! The harmonies are unique to say the least.

My favorite line from the song is:
The one who made us live whole and made us live free and know that it's blood that buys liberty.

Good stuff.
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awigze said 2740 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Michael
Thanks fasteddie, appreciate your listening.... blessings
Andy
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Daugrin said 2740 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Smoking Decision Corner
Andy thanks for giving me a chance to play on your track. What should we do next? The Fun House is waiting...

Daug
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awigze said 2740 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Daugrin
methinks sock monkeys might be in order, kind sir.
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Alannah said 2740 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Well now .....
... this is really "artsy" ..... I was almost feeling a little (DEVO) for a moment .....
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awigze said 2740 days ago (March 19th, 2010)
Alannah
ha, are we not men? Artsy, now that is an interesting word for this. Thanks for listening and always good to work with the daugrin!
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sister_savage said 2740 days ago (March 20th, 2010)
Lovely spacious mix
and yes, choices are definitely over-rated! A cool, thought-provoking song!
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awigze said 2740 days ago (March 20th, 2010)
Tess
Thanks Sister! Agreed... not always sure what to think- just a few things that matter ... and life goes on.
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Calchas said 2740 days ago (March 20th, 2010)
Great tuneage!
My kinda lyrics!

Be well friend!
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awigze said 2739 days ago (March 20th, 2010)
Calchas
Appreciate your ears and encouragement.
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spitlogic said 2739 days ago (March 20th, 2010)
Cool
I really dig the electric keyboard. It gives it a kinda retro feel. Nice work.
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awigze said 2739 days ago (March 20th, 2010)
Mitchell
Hey, thanks spitlogic. I am glad you dropped into my humble offering and gave it a listen. It was the keyboard that I tried really hard not to overpower the file. I guess I did ok there.
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scofugate said 2739 days ago (March 21st, 2010)
This song Smokes!!
Its a power struggle. I am loving the mellow backing here .

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awigze said 2739 days ago (March 21st, 2010)
scott
thanks for the comment. Daug was integral.
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Doadars Uncle said 2739 days ago (March 21st, 2010)
True enough!
Zappa's channeling in there, somewhere! Warm and mellow vibe... much enjoyed.
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awigze said 2739 days ago (March 21st, 2010)
Doug
Thanks sir! I am feelin all warm and vibish now. enjoying your music.. man, what a sound!
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lilmom said 2738 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
Smokin' or non
I loved your story behind this as much as I loved the results of your inspiration! What a concept! Big smile throughout.
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awigze said 2738 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
Sylvia
Thanks Mom, It's funny where inspiration can come from. From the mundane to the dramatic. It's not always the big stuff that gets the attention. Appreciate you taking the time to listen and to leave a comment.
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Daugrin said 2738 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
Thanks Mom
I appreciate you dropping by and listening Mom.

Daug
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lilmom said 2738 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
Oh Daug
I always try to mention all collaborators when I comment, I messed up this time. You two came up with quite a production here! Very enjoyable indeed! It was my pleasure to listen to it. (Sorry i didn't acknowledge you specifically the first time, Daug! My omission!)
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awigze said 2737 days ago (March 23rd, 2010)
lilmom
I am sure daug is not offended in the least. Such a humble guy in that area.
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lengold said 2738 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
Loving the
feel of this - like a long lost Marvyn Gaye. Superb.
Cheers
Len

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awigze said 2738 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
hey! Mr Gold
Glad you dropped in my friend. Daug is the bomb. cool comment!
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Daugrin said 2738 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
Hello Len
Glad to see you diggin' Wiggi/Daug soul...

Daug
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Roxylee said 2738 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
Oy vey
"... but we have to pass the bill so you can, um, find out what is in it."
Scary words by Nancy, and a cool project by you. Yeh, we do everything to kick Go's wisdom out of America, then wonder why we're going downhill at such an alarming rate.

My hearing must be going too, Andy, because this sounds fine to me- and I'm impressed that you only had one piece of paper in your car.
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Daugrin said 2738 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
Hey Roxylee
Sure glad to see you here.. despotism? Andy did a great job on this one!

Daug
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shavingronaldscar said 2738 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
Really chill vibe, guys
Great guitar processing, sounds really laidback. They keyboard work is prime too. I was going to say that the vox could use some limiter compression, as they override the beat in some places, but on second thought, that might not be a bad thing. The words are the focus, so it's cool to have the groove lying behind them. Perhaps use the same reverb you used on some of the instruments over the vox as well, just so it sounds like they're coming out of the same space. Then it sounds less like a voiceover. Great job!
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Daugrin said 2738 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
Thanks Shaver
Appreciate you stopping by for a listen and sharing your ears with us.

Daug
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awigze said 2737 days ago (March 23rd, 2010)
Shave
great comment. I think I will be more mindful of such things on future projects. I wasnt sure what to do with the reverb at times on the vocals and it gave me the most challenge of the song- at first I had a lot, then too little. The daug and I thank you!
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MotherofMeursault said 2738 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
I pressed play just to hear Nancy
but then I stayed for the whole thing! Warm, groovy stuff. Well done, both of you!

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Daugrin said 2738 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
MoM
You are so funny MoM. Always joking around with the boys...
We know you were a Goldwater Girl, he-he...

Daug
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awigze said 2737 days ago (March 23rd, 2010)
MOM
yes, dear Nancy. glad you stuck around. Daug was on it! Ya, doesnt strike me as an LBJ type.
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ste said 2737 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
great
lyrics. backed up well.
enjoyed this
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Daugrin said 2737 days ago (March 22nd, 2010)
Indeed
Ste thanks for your support of this project. Andy doesn't post much, but he makes up for the lack of quantity with quality. The best part is he let's me play on some stuff every now
and again.

Daug


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MarkHolbrook said 2736 days ago (March 24th, 2010)
LOL
Pelosi is such a case... sigh... Ya Charles had it right... This just brings up a ton of points... Very enjoyable listen... I was smiling the entire way!
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awigze said 2736 days ago (March 24th, 2010)
Mr Holbrook
Thank you kind sir, I am happy you got to hear this. I keep listening to Better Men and feel like it relates in some way... do you spin like me.
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VicDiesel said 2724 days ago (April 5th, 2010)
Agree or not
At least you are articulate (and entertaining) in your expression of your opinions. Cool song.
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awigze said 2722 days ago (April 7th, 2010)
Vic
Thanks Vic ! Cool comment. I am glad you appreciate the effort.
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papag said 2557 days ago (September 18th, 2010)
What a life
The commentary is hilarious, the beats are sweet and the vocal stylings are fun-tastic.

fav'd and dl'd


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awigze said 2529 days ago (October 16th, 2010)
Thanks Papa
I enjoyed that you enjoyed this.... thanks for the d/l. come back anytime... but of course, by now you're probably sick of this tune.
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strangedream said 2411 days ago (February 11th, 2011)
"It's blood that buys liberty"
As in the struggle in Egypt...it certainly does. Poignant, funny....kind of makes yer blood boil, but in a good way. Good going guys.
awigze said 2411 days ago (February 12th, 2011)
Natalie
as in Egypt and everywhere else that thrives on it. Thanks for the listen and taking the time to comment. :))
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tokai said 2221 days ago (August 21st, 2011)
Impressive
A full house. I like how the inspiration was sparked and how you have developed this into this tune. I like to read descriptions like that. Cool words and you are right there. Great song
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awigze said 1891 days ago (July 16th, 2012)
this one seems
just as relevant today as if did in 2010
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