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Fantasie (S. L. Weiss)


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Two things led to this post; the first was Ibstrat's submission of S. L. Weiss' "Allemande" a few days ago, followed by my receiving a mike preamp for Christmas yesterday, which made me want to try recording something. This is only the second digital recording I have ever attempted, and it has problems galore, but I lack the patience to attempt to fix them all, so here is my recording of S. L. Weiss' Fantasie.

Weiss was born in 1687 (two years after J. S. Bach), and died the same year as JSB (1750). He was an outstanding composer and lutenist, and I suspect he would be a lot better known if he had composed more for other instruments, rather than the lute, whose popularity decreased drastically following his death.

The fellow in the picture above is probably not S. L. Weiss, but it does show some random dude playing what appears to be a baroque lute, so that was close enough for me. I find his smug expression kind of disturbing, though...
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H3nry said 2369 days ago (December 26th, 2010)
Ah! Xmas lute! (music, that is)
I fail to hear problems galore. Sure, you could probably find better mic placement given a couple of weeks experience, but the recording is good enough that I didn't notice it. I just heard the guitar and your rendition of a piece I haven't heard before. Lovely playing. I'll have to go research S.L.Weiss, now.

I recently picked up Edin Karamazov's "The Lute Is a Song", so I have been listening to lute of late. Would you believe Bach's Toccata & Fugue on the lute? And a collab with Sting?
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composerclark said 2369 days ago (December 27th, 2010)
Thanks
Thanks very much for the kind comment! I did this with the mike sitting on my lap, and it would change position every now and then... I subsequently got a mike stand and started using that for later recordings.
Thanks as well for the tip on the Karamazov CD. I will check it out.
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VicDiesel said 2369 days ago (December 26th, 2010)
Crafty
You play guitar pretty well! Didn't know that. Couple of glitches, but I missed those the first time around.

OK, about mr Weiss. You call him outstanding as a composer, but based on this piece I don't quite hear that. I'm guessing that he's part of the hordes of virtuoso/composers who wrote music to display their abilities as a player. And as with Paganini, Bottesini, Marais, Sor, Doppler (to name a few that come to mind) the music can be charming, surprising, but is usually not of a uniform high level such as you would expect from a truly top composer.

Anyway, I enjoyed listening to this, both for the music and your performance.
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composerclark said 2369 days ago (December 27th, 2010)
Thanks
"Pretty well" is about all I can aspire to, given my complete neglect of the guitar in recent years, so thanks!

I would suggest that Weiss is a better composer than the others you cite; I'm not sure it's fair to dismiss him based on hearing one composition played amateurishly.
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drakonis said 2369 days ago (December 26th, 2010)
A wild Lutenanny!
Well, perhaps not, but seeing that you had posted something got me all excited and before I could type, the puns beat me to the keyboard, sorry.

Very enjoyable piece of music, and deftly played... huh? I said DEFT! Sheesh... I try to be serious and you get all silly at me. :-) Anyway, very nice guitar work, somewhat somber and warm composition... great for shaking off the winter chill.

ttfn,
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composerclark said 2369 days ago (December 27th, 2010)
Thanks
"Daftly" played is the way I would describe it, but I'm glad you enjoyed it!

Speaking of winter chill, I was in Orlando last week, and it was colder there than here (Newfoundland) some days...
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paul f. page said 2369 days ago (December 27th, 2010)
Very pleasant...
Weiss may not have ended up being very well known, but if this is a representative example of his work, I'd say he was one of those composers who's now become a lost treasure..This is a wonderful little piece that I think you play very well, indeed, right up to that concluding trill. Having heard your wonderful piano comps, it is surprising (and not) to hear how facile you are on the guitar, too. Ah, the world is full of surprises...and treasures. Thank you for this recording, your playing, and for taking the time to unearth such pleasant music. I hope you will do more of these.
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composerclark said 2369 days ago (December 27th, 2010)
Thanks
Thanks for your kind and generous comment! I used to play guitar a lot many years ago, and one of my new year's resolutions will be to to start playing again.

Thanks again, and I hope you are enjoying a wonderful holiday season!
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Corporal Beef said 2369 days ago (December 27th, 2010)
Great Way to Start My Day
What I like best about this piece is its subdued nature. It's definitely not grandiose church music! Very pretty melody, and your playing abilities brought it to life. Thanks for turning me on to Weiss, and thanks for posting.
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composerclark said 2367 days ago (December 29th, 2010)
Thanks
Yes, it's a relatively subdued piece, although I think if played by a better performer it would build to a fairly dramatic climax towards the end. Thanks so much for having a listen and leaving a thoughtful comment!
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ktb said 2369 days ago (December 27th, 2010)
Fantasie
He's smug because it was still cool to have really long hair and wear pouffy shirts :-) Clark, a delightful piece artfully rendered. I can't speak from any authority I've never heard of the guy (nor any of the ones Vic mentioned, sadly), but I know when I like something and this sounds lovely. No big nits on the recording either. Sounds clear and present to moi. Hope you are enjoying some well deserved down time with your new toy.
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composerclark said 2367 days ago (December 29th, 2010)
Thanks
Ah yes, the hair! That's probably the reason for the self-satisfied expression. I am without hair to cover most of my head, so I generally have a more hang-dog expression in pictures, LOL.

I'm very pleased that you had a listen and liked it!
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guitapick said 2369 days ago (December 27th, 2010)
Clark...
...ever since hearing this on Segovia's first "Platero y Yo" album, this has been one of my all time favorite pieces on the classical guitar.

Very nicely done, sir...thanks so much. I love this. The break into the fugue is so classic...

(btw: I used to have the sheet music for this and have lost it. What's the # associated with it? Do you have the publisher?)
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composerclark said 2367 days ago (December 29th, 2010)
Thanks
Thanks for the comment, and for reminding me that this is on "Platero Y Yo," an album I haven't listened to in many years, but now that it's on my mind I'd like to hear it again.

I play this from memory and I am not sure where the score is, but it might have been a Universal Editions score. I just did a web search, and it seems there are several places to get it on line. It's either called Fantasie in D minor, or Fantasia in D minor, or in re mineur, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a free downloadable edition somewhere, but I couldn't find one just now when I searched.
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guitapick said 2366 days ago (December 29th, 2010)
YAY!!!!
Just downloaded it...thanks, Clark!


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guitapick said 2366 days ago (December 29th, 2010)
btw:
I love that Segovia album.
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BirdmanWayne94 said 2368 days ago (December 27th, 2010)
I'm thrilled...
... to hear your guitar work! I really think that you should grace MJ with more of those tracks. That was fantastic!

Despite the sudden (cuts?) in the song, which might be due to the mixing, I heard nothing wrong but sheer gentleness on those strings. I mean, I really like this!!
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composerclark said 2367 days ago (December 29th, 2010)
Thanks
Yes, those sudden cuts are disturbing to me as well. I am a novice at digital recording, and the good news is that I figured out a much smooth way to make cuts after I recorded this, so hopefully my next recordings will sound better.

I am looking forward to hearing more music from you whenever you are able to post something!
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867-5309 said 2368 days ago (December 27th, 2010)
Fantasie (S. L. Weiss) :
This piece & your rendition is simply overflowing with elegance.
a detailed and expansive subject well developed.
at 1:27 interactive duo begins - and resolution & separation is over and again created - yes with the tonic couterpart reinforcement - this is a favorite - packed over the brim with virtuosity - and receives my jumping ovation.
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composerclark said 2367 days ago (December 29th, 2010)
Thanks
Your thoughtful comments are always much appreciated, so thanks for that!
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Bowman said 2368 days ago (December 28th, 2010)
Lovely music Clark.
Played by you with warmth and affection. You may not (although I can't attest to that) be a virtuoso but you play beautifully.
Cheers,
Charlie

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composerclark said 2367 days ago (December 29th, 2010)
Thanks
It is true that I am no virtuoso; I reached my current performing level when i was about 24, and never progressed beyond that, presumably because I started getting serious about composing at that point and stopped practicing on a regular basis. But many thanks for the kind words, and a happy new year to you and your loved ones!
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Ed Hannifin said 2367 days ago (December 29th, 2010)
A classic example....
...of the sub-genre, 'Music For Smiling Men In Knickers', which I, among other authorities have always felt to be something of a misnomer; we cannot be sure, for instance, that just because the person PLAYING the piece was a smiling gent in knickers, that persons of a similar sartorial persuasion were the intended audience.

We CAN say for certain, however, that the work of Weiss predates the invention of bloomers, so THAT hypothesis is right out...

And what sort of shoes were worn? In the same way that modern artists are at pains in photographs to cut out the headstock on their instruments in a quest for possibly lucrative endorsement deals, we note that players in the 1700's tended to have their feet painted out of portraits, leaving subsequent generations of scholars to wonder.

Thank you for the sort of music that brings all this to mind, and keeps it there....

Very nice sound, Clark...Is that the Apogee Uno or the Duet? If the latter, what did you use for a mic? I also appreciate the playing...I will now only post anything I play on guitar in the dead of night under a blanket, so that you won't scathingly comment on it, or quietly laugh at it with your evil, sardonic laugh...

In any case, off I go to download it....
composerclark said 2367 days ago (December 29th, 2010)
Thanks
You raise a valid point vis á vis the imprecision of the genre you cite, but to me an even bigger problem (if such a thing can be imagined!) is that this "Music for Smiling Men in Knickers" genre is not included on the MacJams list. This is a disturbing, and possibly sinister oversight; I wonder what Simon and Miguel have against it?

Thanks for the very funny comments! One day you must visit Newfoundland, or I will visit Maine. If you visit here, you and your entire horde of hangers on are of course welcome to stay with us.

As you now know, since I mentioned it in a Forum thread, the preamp is the Apogee Duet. For a mic I used a megaphone connected to an ear trumpet, pointed in the general direction of my Phillips cassette player, which I mashed into a flat pancake and forcibly inserted into the DVD drive of my Macbook Pro. Obviously, this is the way professionals do it, so I would not recommend this to amateurs, or to sane people.
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Ed Hannifin said 2367 days ago (December 29th, 2010)
As you may recall...
...either you promised to let us visit at your Tuscan villa, OR, I imagined and made up an invitation to visit you at your Tuscan villa, which amounts to the same thing...

I do have a sister in Maine, which almost amounts to neutral ground...

As for Simon and Miguel, 'sinister' does not begin to describe their machinations....

I do recommend that you read Keith Richards' recent autobiography for a rare insight into both the wearing of knickers and the use of the Phillips cassette player... In Keith's case, as a preamp for purposes of "mashing and forcibly inserting" acoustic guitar sounds into 'Street Fighting Man' and 'Jumping Jack Flash'....

You see? You start out joking and discover, through no fault of your own, that you are serious...


composerclark said 2366 days ago (December 29th, 2010)
SiMig = Evil Empire!
Well, you have convinced me; Simon and Miguel are ex-KGB, here in America (or there in America, to be precise) to destroy the American economy (even beyond it's current condition, I mean), in order to further their agenda of Black Market Profiteering. Funny what truths are revealed when you analyze the reasons behind the failure to include the "Music for Smiling Men in Knickers" genre, nay?

Now, to do a 180° back to seriousness again (it's whiplash inducing, I know), I take it you would recommend Keith Richards' autobiography? If so, I will definitely pick it up; I suspect our lifestyles have striking dissimilarities...

So you're not in Maine, eh? For some reason, I thought you were. Massachusetts, then?

And yes, by all means let's get together at my Tuscan villa! I'm not exactly sure where it is right now, but I will have my underlings try to locate it, and then relay that information to you...

All the best to you and your loved ones for the new year!
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Ed Hannifin said 2364 days ago (January 1st, 2011)
Honestly...
I haven't read the Keith bio as yet... I have learned over the years that there are few, indeed, among rock bios that are worth a second read, so I am in the line for it at the local library....

However, since his publicist has done a wonderful job, I have read loads of excerpts and commentaries on said bio--hence the details about the cassette recorder (which is actually somewhat old news) and whatever bits may or may not be in there about Mick Jagger and knickers....

Yes, I'm in Massachusetts... Yearning, right at the moment, for that warm Tuscan sun....
Ibstrat said 2367 days ago (December 29th, 2010)
We're
just a couple of Weiss guys...
Did you say that you played this from memory after not playing for a few years!? Well that's some damn fine playing, you should start practicing again! This piece is in Frederick Noad's method book "Solo Guitar Playing Vol. 2" (Every decade or so I get a student who actually finishes vol. 1) I used to play this but no way can I do it from memory, I gotta go look for the music! Great post Clark!
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composerclark said 2366 days ago (December 29th, 2010)
Thanks
This is a piece I used to play a lot, including in public a few times, so it came back to the fingers surprisingly quickly. One thing I remember about playing it in public is that it would make me unusually nervous, and I have had memory lapses while performing it, which is always a disturbing thing... It's not the kind of piece you can improv on for a while until you remember where you're supposed to be in the piece either. Anyway, thanks again, and I look forward to unearthing a few other old tunes that I used to play.
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sschedra said 2366 days ago (December 30th, 2010)
Clark,
Again, the quality of the sound is just top notch. Every nuance is clearly present. I love your selection of this piece and the performance is well done (even if you don't pick up the instrument that often LOL). As to the lute players smug expression, well, you know the guitar players get all the girls, don't you?

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composerclark said 2365 days ago (December 31st, 2010)
Thanks
Thanks for your nice words! I am not thrilled with the recording — it's my first attempt at using my new preamp, and recording with Garageband — so I may re-record it at some point, but not anytime too soon, probably. Anyway, thanks very much, and Happy New Year to you!
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bud said 2366 days ago (December 30th, 2010)
Isn't that smug expression
the rock star attitude of the day? Your performance is really wonderful and the recording sounds fantastic on my phones. Great presence and tone. I like the natural shift in volume and field as you play. Really an excellent gift - to you and to us.
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composerclark said 2365 days ago (December 31st, 2010)
Thanks
Yeah, you many be on to something with the rock star thing... Huge thanks for having a listen and leaving a nice coment!
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tonestones said 2365 days ago (December 30th, 2010)
Beautiful
We more more! This is great stuff. I wasn't familar with Weiss. Nice recording. Must be a decent preamp.
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composerclark said 2365 days ago (December 31st, 2010)
Thanks
More might be forthcoming... all depends on how much time I have, and once the term starts I will have very little time. In the mean-time, it was fun to do this, and thanks for the comment!
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lengold said 2355 days ago (January 10th, 2011)
I had no
idea you played the guitar, and so beautifully. Enjoyed.
Cheers
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composerclark said 2352 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Thanks
The guitar was my constant companion as a teenager, and in my early twenties. Then life happened...
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Daugrin said 2354 days ago (January 10th, 2011)
Clark exposed!
A pocket classical player! The length of this piece was about right for my attention span. When I try to play these now a days, I end up re-harmonizing, then abandoning the text. This requires discipline... and great passage work would be a plus to... thanks for keeping the classics up front Clark.

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composerclark said 2352 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Thanks
I really appreciate your kind words. I hope to record a few more tunes this year, when time permits. Cheers!
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