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MJCC11- Never Ever Wanna Be Like Them (Death:Arrow Cover) w/ maure, rok41, mh


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When JD proposed the Cover Challenge I knew immediately who I wanted to cover; Lukas of Death:Arrow He was one of the first artists that I listened to when I initially joined in November, 2008. I remember telling Maureen about this young Austrian guy that I heard on Macjams. I played her two songs of his, one was ‘Not my Phone’ and the other was, Never Ever Wanna be Like Them. There was something immediately appealing about how his love for his music really shined through and Death:Arrow became a household name.

Confession
I found one of Mark Holbrook’s drum files in a shared DropBox folder and stole it- just blatantly stole it. It was great and exactly what I wanted. Feeling guilty I confessed my crimes and Mark offered to rewrite the drum part for a better sound. Which he did. His part ratcheted up the song to a new level. I figured out the mandolin parts and then Maureen’s guitar was added. Her work here is excellent pulling out all of her best rhythm and finger picking licks on her Pawless Guitar. I was amazed how the song kept getting better and taking massive upward steps. Cool!

I penciled in a bass part and then realized I should see if Chris (Rok41) could record a live bass track for me. We emailed back and forth and finally he just phoned me stated that it might not be what I would expect. No kidding! What he recorded changed the timbre of the song altogether but nuanced around the rhythm guitar and kick. Along with the bonus of the shakers and Vibraslap that he sent, the song stepped up another level again!

Lukas – Death:Arrow I got to know Lukas along the way too. I was a little afraid that he would hate what I was doing to his song. Was I relieved when he said he loved the rough prelims! He also offered to do the final mix and master. Which he did. The main thing I wanted to do was approach this with a great deal of care and have the most fun possible. I think we did just that and Lukas made the process even more enjoyable as we began to work out the final mixes. What impressed me the most was his commitment to the project. Afterall, it is his song but he went further than that. Everyone pitched in with a lot of suggestions, creativity and enthusiasm. So, thank you immensely Maureen, Mark, Chris and Lukas for your amazing talents. Special thanks to JDHolliday and Bud in making the challenge a great one.

Lukas of Death:Arrow- Original artist, Mixing, mastering
Maure- acoustic guitar, vocals
Markholbrook- drums, electric guitar
Rok41- bass guitar
Awigze- mandolin, vocals, strings
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Lyrics
Never Ever Wanna Be Like Them

All the people don't know me
They talk behind my back
About what I do and what i say
But that is not ok

Sometimes I ask myself
If they are really friends
Sometimes i cry in my bed
But they don't care for that

If they really like me
They would talk to me
But now I know
They are not my friends

[Chorus]
I never ever wanna be like them
Never ever wanna talk to them
Phone them
Want them
Kiss them
Hug them
Have them anymore.

Now I know that I don't need you
I will leave you now
You will hang on the phone
But I'll leave you alone

[Chorus]
copyright Lukas Wellman 2008
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Uploaded: Jan 12, 2011 - 12:08:17 AM
Last Updated: Jan 16, 2011 - 10:11:24 AM Last Played: Oct 10, 2016 - 01:49:45 AM
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apod said 2269 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
wow
this is great and a real group effort tool thanks for all of the background info on this one.
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awigze said 2269 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
apod
Thanks. This was a collaboration made in heaven. Maureen, Mark, Chris, and Lukas really got behind the project and made this a dream!
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Symphony101 said 2269 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
oh boy ...
I'm blown away by these covers ! This is also a great choice. Fantastic performances here, a great listen.

My day starts great today :-)
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Six-Nail-Coffin said 2269 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Agreed
Every one of these has been excellent so far, and this is no exception.
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awigze said 2269 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Yves and Adam
Indeed - the original merited copying. The collaborators made this great. Lukas did the final mix!

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crissew said 2269 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Cool
I like the original a lot. This one has a bit more drum and bass action and is a bit more retro sounding. Great to hear Maure on vocals. This is very good. Enjoyed it
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Charles
I dig the original too. It was interesting how Lukas mixed and mastered this. Chris and Mark made it great too ... and you know how I feel about Maureen!
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davisamerica said 2269 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
ok....
the "bad news" about this is ...you guys have to do another project together cos you obviously "play nice" together..... hey...i know that female voice!!
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Jack
Yes... that is a good problem to have. cool challenge.
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Jack
remember when she sang White Rabbit at the Dallas Texas Jam.... ?wheee haaaa
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RAVENS said 2269 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Awesome
I haven't heard the original yet, but this sounds terrific. Love the lyrics, gosh they ring so true. What a catchy song, the music is fab & the vocals are just awesome! Great collab everyone!

RAVEN ;-)
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Dani
by all means go check out Death:Arrow. something special there.
Maureen and I could really relate to these lyrics as well... and do they ring true? yes. Thankful for life's examples to help us along the way.
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magnatone said 2269 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Never Want to be like Them
This is fabulous Andy, Maureen, Mark and Chris - (holy smokes, what a lineup)! I also loved Lucas's original - GREAT cover!
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Karen
you're so cute. I am so glad to have worked with these guys and of course Maureen always makes projects that we work on so much better. Glad to know you. Remember that talk we had about narcicists? Well, this has something to do with the choice of music here but mostly to have the ability to work with Lukas, Chris, Mark and Maureen.
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Doadars Uncle said 2269 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
What fun!
You've created a very wide world, here. Very nicely done!
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Doug
There were some advantages of having Lukas in Europe working on the project. Being 5 hours difference he was working on mixes and tweaks while we were asleep. Next morning.... like magic, there was something there. I am a blessed man to have worked on this song with these collaborators.
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ShadowofNine said 2269 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Another kool tune
As I work my way threw the Challenge songs I am struck with how they are all such creative and musical pieces, I am in awe of those artists who covered other MJers, great tributes to fine composer/performers...Awesome track Andy...
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
SO9
I am glad you were able to hear this one as well.
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Char said 2269 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
This is
great, especially in the vocals by Andy and Maureen. Mark and Chris added more fun to the package and Lukas had to get a kick out of hearing a remake of his rocking song. Well done. Thanks.
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Charllene
We were both equally excited to have this song to work with. Everyone did SO GOOOOOOOddddd. The vocals were the fun part.
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davisamerica2 said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Loved every little note and all it's sustain
This was as much a joy and fun-filled listen, as I'm sure it was to play. That bass riff I kept waiting for to come around the next time. Lead guitar was really sweet, and all other guitars as well. Mando is always a treat. Never put it down, Andy. Great cover! T
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
T2
Thanks Terry. You words of encouragement are like gold. I am sure Lukas is feeling pretty good about now. I know I am and the group of collaborators are top notch. I knew this was going to be special
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DeathArrow said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
la la la
i'm still so excited about the final product and i gotta tell you again that i simply love this! :)

It is really amazing what we've accomplished and i would LOVE to collaborate with you again :D
it was definitely worth it

And now it's time for a real cheers!
so...
CHEERS! hahah
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
DeathArrow
Really loved this project. I especially was impressed with how you got involved and really made the big difference. Thanks for the mix and mastering this song. I too would love to collaborate on another. Anytime you need sax on something- you got it! I cant tell you how happy (and relieved) I was that you said yes to the project and then how you liked what we were doing. Maureen, Mark and Chris were also very happy with the way this turned out. It was a lot of fun all the way around. so.... CHEERS!
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bud said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
This is a really inspired choice
and a great read on the original. Excellent work all around - I love the scale of the production - big - big - big. Cool.
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Bud
Thanks bud. I was feeling pretty big when it was all said and done and agree with you that it was a fine choice. I had a great time
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Carrie71 said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Never Ever Wanna Be like them
Very cool to hear you singing again and to hear your wife as well! This is very good. I really enjoyed the song.
awigze said 2268 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
Carrie
It's not something that I do very well, but I think it has its place here and there... more of the singer/songwriter on stage and a bit tilted. Thanks Carrie for dropping in and listening. Maureen had a good time. I just love her guitar playing on this and everyone else's involvement was very heart warming to me how they got behind the project.
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Vic Holman said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
wanna be like them
another cool cast of players.

can't say that i heard the original, but this sounds great. a cool indie sound going on here. lively
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
Vic
I know that there are tons of new songs coming on as well as the daily fare of excellence here. But if you ever get a chance to hear Lukas' tune, it is rather quite good. I am humbled by Chris (Rok41) and Mark Holbrooks support of the project. Maureen couldnt stop talking about it and having Lukas himself want to mix and master, well that was the high point of the project.
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rok41 said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Never Wanna Be Like Them
Hey guys, it was fun being involved in this collab. This song really evolved over a few weeks, lots of great input and it was a great song from Lukas. I was hoping to do my own cover, but time was very short, thanks for including me on this project. RoK
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
Rok41
Thanks loads for agreeing to add your bass on this... Without your part, this song would have been okay - but you helped make it great. I am glad that you got to at least participate in the Cover Challenge. I think makes our 4th collab. I think we talked about that on the phone... at any rate. I really appreciate this. Hope that we get to meet someday soon.
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Gaylen75 said 2268 days ago (January 12th, 2011)
Cool
I really like this. I think I am now a fan of hime too. And of course you. This is fun.
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
Gaylen
Hey my friend. Thanks for the listen and comment. DeathArrow makes some good tunes and I really appreciate his perspective on things. It was interesting getting to know him during the process of working on the mixes with us.
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Kicbal said 2268 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
Really Nice
Love this earthy, yet expansive sound. Great energy. Very well mixed as I can hear everything clearly. The overall musical groove of this reminds me of old Midnight Oil material. Nicely done everyone.
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awigze said 2268 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
Christopher
I love the way this song turned out. Lukas really did a good job on the mix and master. Maureen, Chris and Mark made this project a wonderful collaboration for me and it goes into the annals of my favorites.
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Jarvoid said 2268 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
Cool cover...
now i hafta go and listen to the original...Very good job by all those involved.....it makes me realise just what my music is lacking...talent,craft and care !! And I mean it !

Cheers ,Great job

Jarvoid
awigze said 2268 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
Chris
yes, by all means... listen to deatharrow. He even helped on the mixes and mastered, so his sound is all over this file- which is a good thing. I am happy you came to listen to our work and thanks for taking the time to comment....
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richard13 said 2268 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
Great stuff!
I wasn't sure I wanted to listen to this originally: Lukas being Austrian and 40 years younger than me, I haven't found a lot in his work that I can relate to. But you obviously did. And a wonderful choice of tune and playing partners you made. The sentiment in this song IS one I can relate to, along with the individual performances. Thanks Andy et al.
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awigze said 2267 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
Richard
It's a big world isnt it? This wasnt my first choice of his work, I wanted to cover, Not my Phone... but when pitching the idea to Maure who played acoustic and sang - she said she could relate better to Never Ever.... I was tons lucky that both Chis and MH said yes.. but most of all when Lukas said yes... that made me do a chipmunk dance... which I will not be able to duplicate. Thanks for the comment!
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Feter said 2268 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
Never Ever Wanna Be Like Them
Kudos all around ..this is just so full of spirits !!
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awigze said 2267 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
Feter
ah... mr Feter, my friend. I am glad you were able to hear the spirits. We've travelled many roads and I am glad yours and mine have crossed.
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MarkHolbrook said 2268 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
I was honored
that Andy found and stole a drum track of mine... so honored in fact I offered to write a custom one for him! I LOVE WORKING WITH ANDY!!!! Then as I was working on the drum track Chris dropped in his bass line... OH MAN!!! Now I wanna work with Chris sometime! What an amazing bass player! As this song started to come together I picked up my guitar one morning while on Christmas break and I couldn't resist... I played some lead to it... I'm a lousy lead player but I do enjoy it and just for kicks I sent a copy to Andy ... I never considered it would use it! Wow... What an honor to be included with this group of outstanding musicians! I still walk around the house and office singing this tune!
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MarkHolbrook said 2268 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
HEY Andy!!!!
Where is you "younger you" avatar!? Come on ante up... I wanna see the baby picture where you were born with the sax in your hand!!!
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awigze said 2267 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
MH
Imitation is the highest form of flattery but stealing it is an even greater compliment... I am glad you let me off the hook by rewriting the drum part. And am equally glad you two got to get together on this... was I relieved. I had a bass part all pencilled in but it was not Rok41 quality. You made a huge difference in the way this sounds. I wanted your part because of the sound that you have on the other 2 or 3 collabs we have done.... nudge nudge [hint hint] Thanks for pulling along side. I am most grateful!
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dantimmermans said 2267 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
nice vibe
there's so much energy in this track, great work. I must really compliment Rok41 for the seriously funky bass.
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awigze said 2267 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
Dan!
Seriously funky Bass - where would this song be without it? We all appreciate it.
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jdholliday said 2267 days ago (January 13th, 2011)
Andy!
Wow!!!!!! This is awesome!!!!! people are blowing me away with these covers, Maureen!!!!!! Wow!!!!! ( kinda b52'ed her wauy into stealing the show here! ;-) } Chris knocks another song out of the park! What a unique and great bass line!
Mark is all over the place lately and does a bang up job here!!! Love the drums and guitar! And the mix is awesome Lukas and a great song, And Andy breaking out those vocal pipes and the mandolin? and strings? Your the man Andy! Great Great job by all!!
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awigze said 2267 days ago (January 14th, 2011)
JD
Man, thanks for bringing this all together. I guess you caught the Challenge Bug... it's quite an undertaking. I started one and would not have carried it through without the help of Bud and the community. Maureen- ya - my rocker girl! She's so cool! And Mark and Chris are the top of this tune. I had to have Marks drums and I wasnt even planning on having an electric in the song whatsoever and then the more I listened to it the more I really liked it. Lukas has a great tune from the start and was happy to cover it. He's a great guy and was very helpful and I learned a lot from his involvement in the project.
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Cheeto said 2267 days ago (January 14th, 2011)
Ok...Ok..Ok..
I get it Andy..by "them" you mean me...I get it already..and do such a great job on this song just rub it why don't ya! I really dig this tune. Great to see such a great collab for such a great song...oh BTW..have I mentioned how great this song is?
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awigze said 2267 days ago (January 14th, 2011)
Cheeto
Yes, we printed your avatar and tacked it to the wall while we were recording the vocals. Thanks for the inspiration.
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BirdmanWayne94 said 2266 days ago (January 14th, 2011)
WOW!
This is a great cover. I believe it's your first tune without sax? ;) Fantastic contribution from everyone involved and an equally fantastic product! DeathArrow should be proud. :)
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awigze said 2266 days ago (January 14th, 2011)
Birdman
There' been a few others... mostly early on before I had a decent mic... Thanks for the comment my friend. We are very proud of Deatharrow. He really seemed to enjoy all the craziness in working with us westerners.
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tonestones said 2266 days ago (January 14th, 2011)
Love this.
Really great tune. Andy's voice sounds great. I don't remember hearing you sing before. And what, no sax? Maure sounds really good too, very sassy.
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awigze said 2266 days ago (January 14th, 2011)
Steve
No sax on this one.... thought about it - talked about it, but then.... there was so much good about the tune going on that I didnt want to hide certain elements... like electric guitar and that great bass guitar work by Chris
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WharmtonRise said 2266 days ago (January 14th, 2011)
Excellent
collab guys. I'm with Feter on this... great spirit. Mix features everyone. Really good job by all.
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awigze said 2266 days ago (January 14th, 2011)
Andrew
Thank you kind sir, I am with Feter on a lot of things and appreciate you both - along with my collaborators.... very cool tune to begin with.
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dave_b said 2266 days ago (January 15th, 2011)
Never Ever Wanna Be Like Them (
Great performances by this all-star band! Bass was especially cool, guitars sound great. Mando was a nice suprise, didn't know Andy played that too! Vocs/harmonies are well done. All the parts are sitting nicely in the mix.
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awigze said 2266 days ago (January 15th, 2011)
Dave
Thanks -everyone did such a great job on this. I am reeling from the project as one of my favorite collaborations. The mando gives me the ability to jam on situations where a sax just isn't a right fit. As with acoustic that Maureen plays. I can only play duet with her on sax for so long until it sounds pretty dreadful. Thanks for the comment.
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alackbass said 2265 days ago (January 15th, 2011)
Never Ever Wanna Be Like Them
Great collaboration! Very interesting choice Andy. I've never heard you in a song like this. I like it and I really like the vocals. Mark's drum track is excellent. And you know I'm digging that bass track!
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awigze said 2265 days ago (January 15th, 2011)
Dig the Deatharrow
Always liked Lukas heart when it came to his tunes. i love all kinds of music and have lived thru some of it too... perils of surviving. Ya know I m loving that bass track too... This makes it the third collab for both Mark and Chris and I.Thanks sincere.
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Daugrin said 2265 days ago (January 15th, 2011)
Family affair!
Great job all around, great guitar and vocals. The bass and drums are really supporting the effort. The production value on this is tops.

Daug
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awigze said 2265 days ago (January 15th, 2011)
Thanks Daug
Maureen and I are really meant for each other. The bass and drums makes this tune. Well, Lukas makes this tune. I just covered it...
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fasteddie said 2263 days ago (January 17th, 2011)
I'm really glad
that I didn't miss this one.

What a killer collab and cover!

That bass! Whoa!
The vocals and guitars really shine as well.

Great stuff.
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awigze said 2262 days ago (January 18th, 2011)
Rok bass
That is the number one comment on the tune - that bass. I feel so smart for asking Chris to work the bass part. For a while I thought about making it the primary instrument on the song, but then my wife is playing on this one so I needed to rethink that some as she gets 'turned down' alot whenever we play at church... We've had numerous discussions about that... anyway. thanks.
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lengold said 2263 days ago (January 18th, 2011)
This is really
infectious and on the second listen embedded itself totally in my brain. Everyone's part fits perfectly. Enjoyed.
Cheers
Len

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awigze said 2262 days ago (January 18th, 2011)
Lengold
my apologies- I should have put a warning on this song regarding the brain embedding risks. Thanks for the cool comment and we are very happy that you listened and took the time to comment.
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Sigmund said 2261 days ago (January 19th, 2011)
Never Ever
This is cool guys - sorry I got here so late - Chris just turned me onto it, and I am glad he did. First off this sounds really rich and full - Luke did a great job on the final mix. All the musicianship is great - Love the bass part Chris! I really like the dual lead vocal - it is actually pretty interesting the way you guys pulled that off. I had fun listening to this - thanks to all who made it possible -
Sig
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awigze said 2261 days ago (January 20th, 2011)
Sigmund
Its hard to imagine this song without Chris' bass part. We are happy with the effort and glad you are too.
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Outtaorbit said 2261 days ago (January 19th, 2011)
I can only hope we are friends...
I wanna be anyway...... nicely done
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awigze said 2261 days ago (January 20th, 2011)
Patrick
I checked..... you aren't one of 'THEM' Not that I am that uppity about people but there are narcicists in our lives from time to time - ya just want them to go away. Don't go away my friend.
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DarkPlanet said 2252 days ago (January 28th, 2011)
Ladies and Gentlemen...
This is ingenious!

Unusually sincere and at the same time flippant to 'Them'

Fantastic music and vox to boot!

I also enjoy Deatharrow!!
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awigze said 2252 days ago (January 28th, 2011)
Tom
Thanks- your comment is greatly appreciated. Death Arrow is a pretty cool guy. Maure, Rok41, Markholbrooks are cool too.
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MarkHolbrook said 2204 days ago (March 17th, 2011)
Back in
for another listen... Collab coming up soon Andy... Gotta work through a few issues first but will be knocking on your door at some point!

This still sounds totally cool!
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