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Last Monday a friend of mine who has been creating a musical based on a series of his stories / episodes called Dreamsinger asked if I would write and record a song for the finale where 9 characters would sing ... it was a challenge to make something with so many voices and I struggled with the mix ... so this is the rough for it at this point ... very different style for me and a challenge. All criticism is more than welcome and needed.....

Episode 10 Song – As the nine chosen ones head into the galactic black hole…
Words: Matt Maxwell
Music: Stan Gadziola
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tempie said 1622 days ago (November 19th, 2012)
i'm not normally an 'art rock' type of guy
i like them short and sweet. so i almost didn't click into this. but man i'm glad i did. very cool stuff. vocals are great (backup vox at end are especially cool). and a killer pop melody. i like the dramatic synths in the chorus a lot. really works in a difficult genre. well done.
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gadzooks said 1622 days ago (November 19th, 2012)
I'm not really an ...
'art rock' type of guy either but I quite enjoyed the challenge. Thanks for checking it out and for your comments.
Cheers
SG
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J_Gretch said 1622 days ago (November 19th, 2012)
Moving to the Centre
Not bad at all for a rough mix.I couldn't imagine trying to blend 9 vocal tracks...I heard an interview with Brian May a while back and he went in detail about how they(Queen) would layer and bounce dozens of tracks to get different textures...Good luck with the task I'm sure you can handle it.
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gadzooks said 1622 days ago (November 19th, 2012)
Hi Jay...
this was real different for me and to be honest I lost track of how many vocal tracks are in there LOL
Thanks for your comments. And yeah, Queen ... amazing stuff and a great guitar player.
Cheers
SG
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pablatone said 1622 days ago (November 19th, 2012)
this is cool
I really like the synth choices you made, is the harp acoustic? I think the only change I'd make would be to use a punchier bass sound, it's a good driving bassline.
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gadzooks said 1622 days ago (November 19th, 2012)
Thanks!
My gut was telling me the bass needed to be punchier and you just reaffirmed it.
And I was trying to figure out what you meant by harp and then I realized it was a guitar track you were talking about. I pick and strum the chords up in the high octave range recorded clean and EQ'd pulling down the lower frequencies. Thanks very much for bass comment!
Cheers
SG
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gadzooks said 1622 days ago (November 19th, 2012)
doh!
.. for THE bass comment
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Philip18 said 1622 days ago (November 19th, 2012)
Moving to the centre
Impressive work, Stan. I like the synth sounds you're using. The guitar work is always tasteful. The variety in the arrangement and the rise and fall of the melody suggest "musical" as a genre. To make the voices distinctive they probably need to be different people (a female vocal in there, for example?) but I bet your friend is very pleased with what you've done here!
gadzooks said 1622 days ago (November 19th, 2012)
Thanks Philip ...
I had fun with the synth sounds, something I don't generally get in to much. And yes, he has specific characters to sing parts and is planning on taking my musical track into the studio and getting each character to sing. The vocals I did are really just a sketch and yes Matt was very pleased.
Thanks again Philip
Cheers
Stan
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alackbass said 1622 days ago (November 19th, 2012)
Moving to the Centre
I'm in awe my friend!
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gadzooks said 1615 days ago (November 26th, 2012)
Thanks Andrew
... for always being there!
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PeterB7858 said 1621 days ago (November 20th, 2012)
Moving to the Centre
I could hear right into the mix, Stan. I felt like I was being sucked into the vortex :-) You have managed to give the genre a welcome dose of catchy, melodic vocal interest. Shades of Yes. No doubt you are up to the challenge. Fine work. Regards, Peter.
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gadzooks said 1615 days ago (November 26th, 2012)
Thanks Peter..
for your great comments!
Cheers
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michaeljayklein said 1621 days ago (November 20th, 2012)
Stan...
...you just kill me!! Outstanding work my friend, truly outstanding!
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gadzooks said 1615 days ago (November 26th, 2012)
Hi Michael
... you are too kind!
Good luck with your transition!
Cheers
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rok41 said 1620 days ago (November 21st, 2012)
Centre
What a cool challenge for your writing evolvement. I think you did a nice job here, Stan. I love the old school synth movement. An idea here might be to modulate the song to a higher key in the latter stages to create that "lift". I think the bass line is nice, but I might eq it a bit differently to give it more presence and punch. Just a thought. Very nice job Stan!
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gadzooks said 1620 days ago (November 21st, 2012)
Yes!
that is a really good idea ... maybe the last couple of verses going up a whole tone, Thanks for that. And I agree with EQ-ing the bass. Thanks again Chris.
Cheers
SG
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Dadai.2 said 1620 days ago (November 21st, 2012)
this is some...
... kind of wonderful. Great vibe and sound, and as others have noted - outstanding vocals. Reminds me of some cool songs on the radio from the seventies and eighties. Kudos.
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gadzooks said 1615 days ago (November 26th, 2012)
Thanks
for listening and your comments ... I'm glad you like the vibe and I agree, it does have that 70's feel.
Cheers
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Diego_B said 1619 days ago (November 22nd, 2012)
Moving to the Centre
Yes, Artrock. Really good work, complex. With great harmony vocals and many different ideas. Suddenly it was over, didn't expect that. I think I expected a "finale furioso" after listening to this complex artrock-song. Just a thought.
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gadzooks said 1615 days ago (November 26th, 2012)
... and a good thought
I agree ... the ending does just stop.... maybe I should let that last chord sustain out to a fade?... I'll work on that.
Totally appreciate your comments and suggestion ... welcome to MJ!
Cheers
SG
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Doug Somers said 1619 days ago (November 22nd, 2012)
Musical Midas Touch
Stan you are truly amazing and not one to shy away from this challenge. It seems that anything you turn your hand to goes gold. The opening is 100% totally engaging and the beat sets the scene for what is to follow. Love the chord progression in the chorus, plus the break after the chorus - you use interesting variation throughout. Synth arps/strums are great additions.

Probably the prime thing is (for a musical) that you leave people with a really memorable song they can hum on the way out. You've got that in your well conceived melody that I think suits the lyrics well. (like those lyrics too!!)

The ending of this one I could hear in two ways, and that will depend I think on what the director's trying to achieve at the finish.

One ending can be that the characters may be leaving the stage one by one during the chorus to go into the black hole, in which case the way you've written this matches that for me.

The other ending could be the Big Finish, where the final chorus is repeated by the cast and in the second singing you break them into more harmony and they sing louder. You could also modulate say up a semitone for the second chorus (or for both final choruses and maybe the verse before it too - fun to play with!)

Take care,
Doug

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lyzak said 1619 days ago (November 22nd, 2012)
Much Enjoy..
If this is a sampling of where the musical might go, it will be interesting to hear/see some day. It's fun and informative listening to you do with the this musical challenge - and as well in the comments it elicits.
Sound like you have Mr. Bowie helping out at 3:58. I think I hear your ukelele in there, too, which is cool!
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gadzooks said 1614 days ago (November 27th, 2012)
Re: big finish

Hi Doug
...been thinking quite a bit about what you said regarding the ending along with some other comments that refers to the finale ... when I did this I imagined the lights dimming to black with a spot on the main male character singing those last 2 chorus's as the other characters leave .... but after reading the comments(and it really depends on what the director wants) I like the idea now of all characters singing bigger and louder and modulating up a semi tone or maybe a whole tone for a large finish.
Anyway, at this point it really is a sketch and I have given Mat a song that he will take into the studio with the characters and do his thing ... I'm real happy you took the time to listen and comment Doug it means a lot.
Cheers
SG

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paul f. page said 1619 days ago (November 22nd, 2012)
My two cents...
So much good advice and encouragement above...I echo much of it. This is a large vocal number that will surely "sing" when you place mics and bodies out on a stage so that their distinctive characters can shine at particular moments in this finale. (For some reason I can't explain, this feels more like the end to Act I than it does to Act II. Maybe it's because the music swirls to a great extent and finally ends without completely resolving that final chord. Without seeing the words, though, or knowing the scope of the project, it's impossible to really nail down this feeling. In any event, this is sounding like a very solid number that should have "legs" in any theatrical production.
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grah3am said 1619 days ago (November 22nd, 2012)
Right up my alley
The "Stardust" chorus round about the 2 minute mark should be in a different voice to differentiate it from the main one. I love the harp, dislike the synths, but really like the whole thing. I wonder if you could get the females vocalists to do the "Stardust" bit. I look forward to the next incarnation. Incidentally, I've read "Brief History of time" and according to it entering a black hole ain't pretty!
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gadzooks said 1619 days ago (November 22nd, 2012)
Thanks Graham...
I appreciate your feedback ... the plan is to send out my music tracks and the actual characters will be recorded for the voices. I just did a vocal sketch for them to have something to follow. I'm curious as to why you don't like the synths ... I used a real 70's retro synth and maybe that's what's turned you off .... but I am glad you liked the rest of it. This was a different challenge for me so your feedback is helpful.
Cheers
SG
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grah3am said 1618 days ago (November 23rd, 2012)
Synth
I felt that the song wasn't really retro enough to warrant the prominent old - time synth. The vocals create a floating effect, and the strident synth works against that.
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egobandit said 1618 days ago (November 23rd, 2012)
brilliant
some very choice moments in this 2:01 really sets this off right into the distant thump thump really glad your drifting into the world of Art rock love it
man can you play it!
great words by Matt BTW
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Vic Holman said 1618 days ago (November 23rd, 2012)
soundin' good
very melodic piece stan. i really like the composition here. it stays away from being to repetitive and holds the interest really well but still has a familiarity throughout.
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Skean said 1617 days ago (November 24th, 2012)
Moving to the Centre
I'm back for more of this excellent piece of work, I love it, what a great musician (and painter) you are, be well.
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Warren Smith said 1616 days ago (November 25th, 2012)
Black Holes ...
The other night I was walking through a different Brooklyn neighborhood and came across a tavern called "The Black Hole." I thought it was an interesting name for a bar. Fortunately, it didn't suck me in : )

Stepping beyond one's comfort zone can lead to new musical appreciations. What you are presenting here is pretty wonderful; how it might evolve in production could be amazing.

In the last few years layering has become for me a way to fortify my soundtracks. Although the concept has sucked me in, I like to think of it not as a black hole, but rather an expansion of my musical universe.

It would be nice to have the lyrics posted.

Will you be writing other pieces for this musical?
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musichead said 1615 days ago (November 26th, 2012)
enjoyed...
It was the first song I heard this morning.. well worth it! Making 9 characters sing would be a very hard task. Art Rock? Im not sure of that genre. But I like the song. Nice Job!!
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Loob said 1615 days ago (November 26th, 2012)
Well as always
I enjoyed this! I don't even really have a nit. If I tried really hard to find one it might be the sync in the harmonies. I like to tweak harmony vocal parts so the syllables move together. At least enough that it's not noticable. That's a terribly small thing, that and the abrubt ending.... Even that is not too bad Stan. I'd say pretty good if that's all I can come up with... LOL Great stuff!
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dave_b said 1613 days ago (November 28th, 2012)
Moving to the Centre
Huge sound with all those vocal tracks. I like the punchy, bubbling bass, it is a nice contrast to the "wash" sounds elsewhere. The new genre reaffirms the versatility you've shown in other posts.
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Jarvoid said 1611 days ago (November 30th, 2012)
9 Vocal Tracks......let me get this straight ,
9 Vocal Tracks......send for Jeff Wayne....no send for that "Cats" dude .....or Gadzooks....you nailed it .......where is the rough bit ?....super seventies style synthesised superstardom.....Rick Wakeman you are.......excellent....


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