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Despair


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Llarion

 Genre: Ambient

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A dip into the archives... This song is from my 2nd CD, released 2008, called "Heaven". The CD is my musical interpretation of a hypothetical soul's journey from the moment of death to the moment of redemption. It is intended to paint an emotional picture of an uncertain path; one traveled with tentative steps, fraught with fear, trepidation, and loss, but leavened with hope and faith. This is the sixth (and second-to-last) "movement" of the concept piece; where the soul is encountering fear and solitude and a sense that redemption may not be forthcoming. I am considering going back and remastering the CD for re-release, as it is out of print. This music is a departure from my usual smooth/contemporary jazz; it is a fusion of Ambient, with jazz flavorings. It's darker and moodier than my other stuff... You Pat Metheny fans will recognize the inspiration... Very simple melodic elements and sparse chordal treatment.

BY THE WAY - if anyone can guess the compositional device I used in the A section, you win a prize. First correct answer wins...
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Uploaded: Jun 28, 2013 - 09:52:41 PM
Last Updated: Jun 28, 2013 - 10:09:19 PM Last Played: Mar 15, 2017 - 08:44:05 PM
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Hardware:
Proteus 2000
Korg Triton 61
Yamaha classical guitar
Software:
Adobe Audition.
Comments
Philip18 said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
Despair
Tbe beautifully mellow tone of the guitar sits well against the whooshing synth sounds. Nice ambient music - certainly suggestive of more to come. I'm afraid I don't win the prize though - I'm not even sure what a "compositional device" is. Could you give us a multiple choice question so I can guess? :-) Anyway, that aside I enjoyed listening to this evocative and delicately played piece.
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Llarion said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
I tried...
To think of a way to do multiple choice, it didn't work. It's actually a pretty esoteric thing the more I think about it, but it makes a fun conversation piece if you're a theory wonk... :) Anyway, thanks very much, glad you enjoyed!
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egobandit said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
deep synths
and lovely guitar, I get a Blade Runner feel from this its a moving piece that gets deep inside your head I enjoyed this allot!
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Llarion said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
Blade Runner huh?
Cool... :) Thanks for that, good to get deep inside your head. :)
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Reinholt56 said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
Hi Llarion....
I really enjoyed this mix. It does have some of the Vangellis magic, but in your own style, with the emphasis on what you do extremely well.

Nice dreamy mood. Coooool.

Take care.

Paul
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Llarion said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
Thanks very much!!
My head was in an unusual place when I wrote this stuff. I wish I could get back there...
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Doug Somers said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
Heaven-ly
Yes, I do hear Metheny's influence here for sure. This piece sets a real mood which, like the synth swirls, is a mix of different emotions that all seem to arise together. This is simple without being simplistic, clean in sound of the lead and yet clouded by the darkness and fear your music describes.

As to the compositional device, I'm guessing you're using the C genus chromaticum scale, however the tonal centre doesn't feel like C but rather Ab.

Thanks for the dload!
Doug
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Llarion said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
Wow...
I had to look that one up! :) No, that's not it, but it's a fascinating concept! Thanks so much for the analytical listen and the thoughtful commentary!

For the record, the song is technically in Db. Or, it might be more easily notated in C#...
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Moviz said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
I still
hear a jazz influence even in this departure from the norm for you.... that guitar sounds beautiful and I find this quite meditative with the swirling sounds in back..... just lovely, regards M
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Llarion said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
Thank you!
You are right about the jazz influence, and it has to do with the "device" I used... I appreciate you listening!!
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davajonah said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
Despair
Very beautiful. I hear Pat Metheny, yes. [I am a fan btw!]

I've absolutely no idea what your compositional device is! Sounds like an Omnisphere preset to me! But your music is perfect.
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Llarion said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
Thank you!!
The specific Metheny reference is "The Bat", from the Offramp album. That record shaped a lot of what I was writing at the time and I didn't even know it...

As for the "device", it's a music theory thing rather than an equipment thing... :) I listed the hardware I used in the song description; mostly Proteus and Korg Triton...
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Skean said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
Dude
What an amazing journey you've created here, I'm amazed, thanks for sharing, downloaded.
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Llarion said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
Wow, thanks!!
Very much appreciated! I hope you enjoy the download!!
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ic42 said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
false cadence?
i am left hanging, and you teasingly head in a different direction without offering that expected final resolving chord. i do not have any music theory classes that would allow me to know the correct term for that, however. it is effective. despite the title, this is full of "anticipation of light" if not light itself. refreshing and soothing, as always. it is good to be back listening to such great music again. thank you.
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Llarion said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
Welllll....
I guess technically there is more than one device in play here... I guess I'm going to have to declare you the winner, because you picked out *A* device I used, just not the one I was referring to... :) Message me privately so we can discuss your prize! I'll post a separate comment explaining the device I was taking about. The one you picked out was the use of a "half-cadence" (a cadence that ends on the V chord and leaves you hanging because it is unresolved); the "false cadence" you mentioned is called a deceptive cadence; and that is one that goes from the V to anything EXCEPT the I chord.
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ic42 said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
half cadence, half right
perhaps i should only receive half a cd? as i already have one of your cds, i have e-mailed you my choice for #2. and by the time i save up to complete the trilogy, you'll pull a douglas adams on me and create a 4th, yay, keep it up! thank you, i will enjoy this new one too. i still have not published a cd of my works, that is a great deal of work.
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Llarion said 1605 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
WE HAVE A WINNER!
ic42 has been declared the winner, because he picked out a device I used in writing the A section of this song - the use of a half-cadence. It wasn't the device I was thinking of, but more than one was in play. For the record, my intent was to delay establishing the key as long as possible. Two devices were actually used in that effort: the half-cadence mentioned, and the other (the one I was trying to get people to guess) was planing with 13th chords. four of the five chords in the A section are 13ths. It goes B13 - G13 - B13 - G13 - Bb13 - Ebm7 - Ab13 (the V chord in the key). 13th chords are really cool. You can take them and play any of the twelve, i any order, and they they don't clash. The other thing they do when played this way is that they DON'T convey a big sense of progression. You just sort of float among with them; moving, but not moving FORWARD. I stuck the little ii-V in at the end of the phrase specifically to tease resolution, like Eduard mentioned in his comment; but I go off in a different direction instead, leaving it unresolved till later. I don't actually establish the key until the B section:
Fm7b5 - Bb7b9 - Ebmaj9 - Ebm7 - Ab11 - Dbmaj9 (that's the ii-V-I that establishes the key, though the song is only very loosely in the key), then Em7b5 - A11 - Dmaj9, then back to Ebm7 - Ab13 to reestablish "key" and tack you back to the A section. Moviz was right about the jazz influences, it's jazz flavored chords and a little disjointed trip around the circle of 5ths via a few randomized ii-V-Is in the B section. Did that make any sense at all or am I just muddying the water with facts? :) I wanted to create chordal tension, and a feeling of ominousness without being in a minor key or feel, and 13ths do that when you plane them... Anyway, ic42 wins any CD of his choice from my catalog (big whoop, a catalog of three!) :)
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magnatone said 1604 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
Despair
i notice i've been a fan of every song of yours i've heard along the way. you do beuaitful and eminently interesting work - great job and thanks so much for the much appreciated D/L!
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Llarion said 1604 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
You're a peach...
and a princess, as always... :) Thanks much for listening!
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Vic Holman said 1604 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
despair
excellent moody piece. i like how the guitar takes its time and leaves a nice amount of space. cool synth effects in the background add a nice mystery
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Llarion said 1604 days ago (June 30th, 2013)
Thanks man!!
Seems like I accomplished what I was shooting for, based on the comments!
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grah3am said 1604 days ago (June 29th, 2013)
Not that desperate
A beautiful piece, worthy of Mr M. (Offramp is one of my favourite CDs.) I like the contrast between the guitar and the twiddles in the background.
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Llarion said 1604 days ago (June 30th, 2013)
Twiddles...
Great description! I like it! Thanks very much for the listen! "James" from that CD is one of my all time favorite songs.
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echoroom said 1604 days ago (June 30th, 2013)
Despair?
Man, this is lovely - I get the Blade Runner thing, but this is on its own. Love the subtle, gentle guitar against the cool synths... will be checking out your cd. Is it on iTunes?
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Llarion said 1603 days ago (June 30th, 2013)
It is indeed...
Thanks very much man! It was my 2nd CD, released back in 2008, and was a departure from my normal smooth jazz. Thanks much for the listen and the appreciation! :)
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MartinD28 said 1602 days ago (July 2nd, 2013)
Despair
What a clean recording - sonically pleasing. The guitar is played with great sensitivity. I love the dominant dissonant tension dissolving briefly into the jazzy harmonic chords - very effective. Wonderful stuff!
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Llarion said 1602 days ago (July 2nd, 2013)
Thank you
I appreciate your comment about the guitar technique because I struggle mightily with that. On classical, I was picking like a bass player, since that's what I am mostly... Except in the b section where I was pinching. :)
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VicDiesel said 1602 days ago (July 2nd, 2013)
Heaven
The suspended feeling comes across quite nicely. Though I would say this is not dark enough to be called "despair".

As to the device, until you made that slide Bb-Eb I was going to say that you were playing with third relations, like the big romantics. (I :heart: Bruckner) See: B-G-Bb, it's thirds rather than cycle of fifths.

Oh, very nice piece. Very .
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Llarion said 1602 days ago (July 2nd, 2013)
Wow!
Great analysis! I'm going to have to experiment with that, the thirds relationship thing. As to the darkness part, it doesn't come across without context, you kinda have to listen to the whole record, in order, to feel it... The album is a concept piece, and I think it loses a little when context is removed...

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KCsGROOVE said 1602 days ago (July 2nd, 2013)
despair
It's been a while since I heard a new song from you
I like the mood in this piece.
And the mix is great
Very much enjoyed!
KC
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Llarion said 1601 days ago (July 3rd, 2013)
Thank you sir!
This one isn't new, it came out in 2008; but it's new HERE. I do have two new recordings I posted prior to this one, "Embryo" and "I Remember Christmas Eve" (it's not a Christmas song...) :)
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Loob said 1601 days ago (July 3rd, 2013)
Very nice production Phil
Pretty laid back. Feels more light hearted than dark really. Not sure if I was supposed to anticipate darkness from "uncertain path", but this felt more light than dark. None the less very well done!
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Llarion said 1601 days ago (July 3rd, 2013)
Thank you sir!
Context is key here.... If you heard the whole record in order, it sets the mood more effectively... :)
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Narad said 1601 days ago (July 3rd, 2013)
Hope
Very dreamy and restful guitar play ! But why despair ?
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Llarion said 1601 days ago (July 3rd, 2013)
It's part of a concept album...
"The CD is my musical interpretation of a hypothetical soul's journey from the moment of death to the moment of redemption. It is intended to paint an emotional picture of an uncertain path; one traveled with tentative steps, fraught with fear, trepidation, and loss, but leavened with hope and faith. This is the sixth (and second-to-last) "movement" of the concept piece; where the soul is encountering fear and solitude and a sense that redemption may not be forthcoming."
Check out my latest song called Door to Babylon
LisaHawbaker said 1595 days ago (July 9th, 2013)
Heaven
Again, very, very nice!! Are you on radio yet???? :)
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Llarion said 1593 days ago (July 11th, 2013)
Oh, but I wish...
No, not so much on the radio thing. It's a little niche-sensitive, music, and indies don't get a lot of airplay... :O)
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Scott Carmichael said 1545 days ago (August 27th, 2013)
your vocabulary
I think oine of the things that I'm enjoying so much, as I listen through your material, is how you make such different choices to get to the places that I still recognise... bravo
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