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Sonnet 138: Rock / When My Love Swears (Dadai, rschletty, mungo)


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This is quite a departure from Postludes Trio's past sonnet songs. Here is the first of three different versions of William Shakespeare's Sonnet 138. The process started about three months ago with a simple double bass loop in the key of Cmaj and Jack and Rich both doing free-form vocal tests. We let it vegetate for a while, then decided to lower the key two full steps to Amaj. Rich sent Jack the transposed double bass loop and Jack laid down a soulful vocal track on his lunch break. Mungo accepted our invitation to help fortify the musical landscape. Richard and he put a bunch of hours into this project. So much so that it resulted in a trilogy of stylings.

Richard's comments: "Our collaboration on Sonnet 138 throws the door wide open to a myriad of ways to interpret Shakespeare's immortal words. Jack laid down an excellent vocal track that is proving to be adaptable to various treatments. Our sonnet styling up to this point had been too narrow (i.e. in the folk and soft rock/adult genres). Playing off of Jack's vocal movements, I penciled in Gothic organ chords in the MIDI editor in GarageBand 2--a very powerful tool for customizing your sonic landscape. I used the +12 and -12 tone setting to color mungo's synthetic atmospherics."

Bill's comments: "I was flattered to take part in this collaboration and enjoyed it very much."

Jack's comments: "Mungo and rschletty took my fairly unremarkable vox and applied their creativity to come up with Gothic Rock, Industrial and Jazz versions of Shakespeare's Sonnet 138. We will upload the other two over the next two days."

VERSION 1: ALTERNATIVE/INDIE ROCK - this song page
VERSION 2: INDUSTRIAL - http://www.macjams.com/song/song_profile.php?lid=10132
VERSION 3: JAZZ - http://www.macjams.com/song/song_profile.php?lid=10181

Related pieces:
- A "clean" mix of Jazz version (no chatter or coughing): http://www.schletty.com/music/WMLS(S138)-Jazz-nochatter.mp3
- S138 Study, by rschletty: http://www.macjams.com/song/song_profile.php?lid=9693 (an early study by Rich in Cmaj)
- Ghost of 138, by mungo: http://www.macjams.com/song/song_profile.php?lid=10223
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Lyrics
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When my love swears that she is made of truth,
I do believe her, though I know she lies,
That she might think me some untutor'd youth,
Unskilful in the world's false forgeries.
Thus vainly thinking that she thinks me young,
Although I know my years be past the best,
I smiling credit her false-speaking tongue,
Outfacing faults in love with love's ill rest.
But wherefore says my love that she is young?
And wherefore say not I that I am old?
O, love's best habit is a soothing tongue,
And age, in love, loves not to have years told.
Therefore I'll lie with love, and love with me,
Since that our faults in love thus smother'd be.

-The Passionate Pilgrim (1599), William Shakespeare
Song Stats
Hits: 6813
Comments: 42
Fans: 4
Plays: 586
Downloads: 268
Votes: 26
Uploaded: May 17, 2005 - 11:23:07 PM
Last Updated: Aug 14, 2005 - 08:11:24 PM Last Played: Nov 09, 2018 - 03:09:48 PM
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Hardware:
mungo: PSR-275, UA-25, iMac G5
dadai: Shure 57 mic, iBook g3, M-Audio Mobile-Pre
rschletty: G4/500MHz
Software:
GB2, GB1, iTunes with LAME encoding (--alt-preset insane)
Comments
_nderscore said 4961 days ago (May 17th, 2005)
woo-hoo!
this is great guys! what a fresh take on 'ole bill's work. the
synths makes this super enjoyable to me. major kudos on
the creation of the soundscape/movement/mood. the gothic
organs & vocals (from 1599!) create an interesting contrast
to the fresh electronics, making it hard to place this in time..
is it old or is it new? very fresh (okay, i'm gushing). can't wait
to hear the industrial take
DL/faved
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stevel said 4961 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
Cool one guys!
Sounds like Jim Morrison fronting Tangerine Dream at a
Shakespeare festival! Great soundscapes - lyrics aren't
bad too!
Thanks for sharing it with us
S
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Postludes Trio said 4960 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
Cool one guys!
Thanks. We'll take that description. -RS

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said 4960 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
Cool one guys!
That groaning and shaking you hear is Jim Morrison rolling over in
his grave. :-)

Thanks.
Jack

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Rebsie said 4961 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
Very good
Wooh, this is really different. Lovely complex
soundscape. And I gather Jack recorded the vocal at
work in his lunch break? Fantastic! Wish I could get
that kind of inspiration between sandwiches.

I look forward to hearing the others!
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said 4960 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
Very good
Yes, I recorded this during lunch, not at work but at home. I raced
home and did three takes, ate lunch, sent the last take to Richard...
and emailed Mungo inviting him to collaborate. And then raced back
to work (pant, pant). Fun.

Thanks,
Jack

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aclarke said 4961 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
Mungo warned
that this was on the way. This is really an interesting piece
of music. Excellent collaboration, gentlemen. Another fine
example of what makes MacJams such a fine place to
hang out.
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mandolinquent said 4961 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
The bard rocks...
Like the bass snaking around those big gothic chords, the
way the production gradually unrolls. Makes something
very sinister out of the idea of the smothering power of
love.
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said 4960 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
The bard rocks...
an apt description. thanks!
Tom Atwood said 4961 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
ambitious
A great concept, and the lyrics aren't bad either. I loved
the production on this one and the vocal, too. I am always
distracted by hiss, though, and I was here in the vocal
track. It seemed out of place. Other than that, how did I
like the play? Great!
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Tom Atwood said 4961 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
ambitious
A great concept, and the lyrics aren't bad either. I loved
the production on this one and the vocal, too. I am always
distracted by hiss, though, and I was here in the vocal
track. It seemed out of place. Other than that, how did I
like the play? Great!
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Tom Atwood said 4961 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
ambitious
A great concept, and the lyrics aren't bad either. I loved
the production on this one and the vocal, too. I am always
distracted by hiss, though, and I was here in the vocal
track. It seemed out of place. Other than that, how did I
like the play? Great!
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Tom Atwood said 4961 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
ambitious
(sorry, I didn't mean to do that....)
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Postludes Trio said 4961 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
ambitious
No problem on the multiple posts. Did you vote three times, also? Good! Not
sure what hiss you are talking about. Something in the vocal track? Thanks
for your comments.

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Tom Atwood said 4961 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
ambitious
I would vote 3 times if I could. Maybe it's my phones, but I thought I heard a
pretty good hiss in the vocal track, noticed it kind of cut off when the vocal
ended. Ask others. I could be hallucinating, or something like that. Maybe it's
a hissy fit.
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Postludes Trio said 4960 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
ambitious
I thought I did a reduction in the 6000-7000K range in the
Multiband Equalizer (to reduce spraying S sounds), but may have
inadvertently wiped that out as I tried various presets for the vocal track
(which is cloned) -- one for presence and one for echo/ambience. I
appreciate knowing what you hear. Is it a persistent hiss or is it the sung "s"
sound? I'm seeking perfection in my audio mixing. Sometimes, a global preset
(e.g. Club Master) will emphasize the "s"ing. I try to be careful about not
using too much compression but don't always do it right.

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Tom Atwood said 4960 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
ambitious
It is most noticeable toward the end, listen to the last line "in love thus
smother'd be." The hiss continues for a couple of seconds and is clipped off
when the vocal track ends. Not really the s's, but more of a constant, minor
hiss.
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said 4960 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
ambitious
Weird. I don't hear it. I'll have my son listen. He has good ears. Thanks for
pinpointing where to listen. Wait till you hear mungo's Industrial version of
this. Hissing and squealing all throughout that!
thetiler said 4961 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
Lots of stuff there
Seems like a lot of musical ideas, approaches are here kind
of a new style than what I've hear you guys do.

Good going
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Anonymous said 4960 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
interesting
this is first time i hear your music ... rather interesting in
spots and different ... hypnotic melody in vocals ... may be
too repetitive on occasion ... best aspect is variety of
accompaniment ... all of you work together with
excellence ...
Warren Smith said 4960 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
A Fine Interpretation
What a great opening line - "I do believe her, though I know she lies." I find this a very refreshing reading of the sonnet. The bass line provides a core structure, allowing the touches of painterly sonics to dart in and around the words of love. The bass also underscores the theme of aging love - I hear it as the relentless forward march of time, while the synths and guitars offer up those soothing smothering words one needs to hear to offset the ravages of the passing years.
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Postludes Trio said 4960 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
A Fine Interpretation
Wow. I hadn't thought of that, Warren! Thanks for giving justification to our
happy accident. It is uncharted territory that we will be happy to revisit now
that we are are comfortable with the landscape. GarageBand rules!

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Kevensor said 4960 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
Better than the original
I think the music fills in with the vocals nicely. The vocal portion was so strong in the last one, it is more cohesive with the music in this version.

Loved it!
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btransue said 4960 days ago (May 18th, 2005)
Morrison...
would love this track!

Don't think he's rolling over...think he's rolling one...out
under the clover.

Enjoyed this fellas.
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bronco said 4958 days ago (May 20th, 2005)
Good Thiing Going On
Yep, I vote for Doors also which ain't bad. Loved the
Doors. Kept waiting for Manzarek's organ and Robbie
Krieger's slide but really enjoyed what you'll have done.
Very atmospheric which gave it a great moody feel.
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said 4958 days ago (May 20th, 2005)
Good Thiing Going On
If I knew what I was doing, I'd let you know. To tell the truth, I simply like
placing those colored tapeworms on the GarageBand timeline, spacing
them out in a pleasing visual manner.
snowdragon said 4958 days ago (May 21st, 2005)
I was in the desert . . .
one morning when I happened upon the rotting carcass of
an enormous lizard. I couldn't approach, as it was
attended by a host of lesser reptiles, gilas, vipers and the
like . . .
So I sat, cross-legged as the sun drew high over the
distant mesas. When it reached its zenith, the reptiles
descended on the great beast, rending and devouring
until naught but its skeleton remained.
When they had all departed, I cautiously inspected the
bones, finding a single crystal fang clinging precariously
to the enormous jawbone. This I placed in my pack. I
turned and . . .

. . . heard this song.


The killer awoke before dawn; he put his boots on . . .
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said 4955 days ago (May 23rd, 2005)
I was in the desert . . .
Hey, I think we were in the same desert on that same day. How synchronous
is that? LOL. Love your vivid imagery.
snowdragon said 4958 days ago (May 21st, 2005)
Jeeeem, Jeeeem
RS, your Lizard King take is pretty much bang on. All you
need is some leather pants, a pair of smelly boots and the
observation that because Morrison thought of himself as a
poet first and singer second, he didn't tend to hold his
notes as long as you do.
cheers
snow
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said 4957 days ago (May 21st, 2005)
Jeeeem, Jeeeem
But dadai (Jack) is singing the lead here, not I. I tried but Jack came thru with
the better rendition.
snowdragon said 4957 days ago (May 21st, 2005)
Jeeeem, Jeeeem
No crap? Far out. Well then, new-found respect for the Dadai-man. I sure fell
off the blue bus on that one, eh?

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said 4957 days ago (May 21st, 2005)
Jeeeem, Jeeeem
It's tough for Rodney and me... can't get no respect ; )



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Mcboy said 4956 days ago (May 23rd, 2005)
my fav
macjams trio.....u guys are a font of koolness.....can't say
which version i like the most...but the atmosphere on this
one is making me lean towards this one.....dadai's vocal part
is just so kool.......
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said 4955 days ago (May 23rd, 2005)
my fav
Mcboy: Wow. Glad you like our musical transliterations of
Shakespeare's cool syntax.
DeputyDoofy said 4949 days ago (May 29th, 2005)
This is really good.
You guys do one hell of a collaboration. :D
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said 4949 days ago (May 29th, 2005)
This is really good.
Doofy, thanks much for listening and I am glad you like this. We wanted to
expand the boundaries of sonnet songs in this series of 138 versions. It was
a learning experience that happened to turn out decently. I appreciated your
comment.

Jack

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perceptualvortex said 4904 days ago (July 13th, 2005)
Agreed
on the comparison to Morrison and Tangerine Dream. This sounds great, very nice vocals Jack. Could be a lost Doors tune.
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Postludes Trio said 4904 days ago (July 13th, 2005)
Agreed
Thanks, Percept. We really appreciate your cruisin' of our tunes. -- Rich

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said 4897 days ago (July 20th, 2005)
Agreed
Thanks for the comments PV. I am taken aback by the comparisons to
Morrison.

Jack

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screaming.org said 4802 days ago (October 23rd, 2005)
while listening to this
My first thought was that this was one of the more unique
contributions to the Halloween thread.

Then Jim Morrison popped into my head, and I went to comment.
Then I hit command-F and type "Morrison" into the search dialog.
command-G, command-G, command-G...yup, already been
mentioned a bunch of times. Well, it's still true even if I'm not the
first to mention it.

The swing of the jazz bass had my hips moving in all sorts of
jerky, vile ways. Hope there are no hidden cameras.

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said 4792 days ago (November 2nd, 2005)
while listening to this
Hey, screaming.org...glad you got twisted and jerked about with this.

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Moses said 3659 days ago (December 9th, 2008)
Real
interesting take on this. I bet Shakespeare would get a kick out of hearing these musical interpretations of his stuff. Great mix and cool sounds in this piece. Thanks
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