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THE FINAL MIXED AND MASTERED VERSION OF THIS TRACK IS AVAILABLE ON MY DEBUT ALBUM, "SOMETHING".

http://www.simig.com/records/artists/peter/peter.htm

THIS VERSION IS CLOSE TO FINAL BUT NOT THE FINAL.

This is a major overhaul of one of my first songs. Among other things, I redid all the vocals and added other parts, totally changed and worked out the the drums, added numerous sounds and nuances, extended the intro, and massaged the overall mix.
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Lyrics
This is a twisted game we play each other every day
the pain you feel is nothing strange
so take it as you will

When at last you feel safe
and everyone's changed
we'll just do it again

Nothing is as empty as that smile you're giving me
the fleeting light will evanesce like waves across the rolling sea

When you've had enough pain
and it all feels the same
you'll just do it again

I feel it calling me
to where I began

It's the same old game we've played
each time we meet it hurts the same

How many times has it happened
How many times been forgotten
In the end you know we'll
do it again and again and again and again

The act of loving someone that you feel the need to change
will take you to an endless plane
so take what you can get

And when at last your time comes
and there's nobody home
to say it isn't so

I feel it calling me
to where I began

how many times
how many times
how many times
how many times
Song Stats
Hits: 24128
Comments: 58
Fans: 19
Plays: 1614
Downloads: 85
Votes: 32
Uploaded: Aug 09, 2005 - 06:59:49 PM
Last Updated: Oct 25, 2006 - 05:59:15 PM Last Played: Aug 02, 2019 - 07:13:38 AM
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Comments
nextgeek said 5184 days ago (August 9th, 2005)
Cool
This is really a great track. Wonderful work!!
Peter Greenstone said 5184 days ago (August 9th, 2005)
Cool
Thanks, Mr. Geek.
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jesushairdo said 5184 days ago (August 9th, 2005)
think this is my favourite
hey pgeenstone. i think this song is by far my favourite of
yours. i liked grow up very much too. but this is really
good. your vocals are excellent and liked the guitar
sound on top of it!
kewl! downloaded!
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Peter Greenstone said 5184 days ago (August 9th, 2005)
think this is my favourite
Thanks, JH. I'm glad you like it so much. Actually, "Grow Up" is another one I'd
like to redo. Unfortunately, I don't have the mix project for that one anymore
and I will have to start from the beginning again.
Check out my latest song called Iridium Flare (2013 Re-Release)
jgurner said 5184 days ago (August 9th, 2005)
Lots of energy...
...but still has that dreamy quality I like so much. The
production on this one is excellent. Your production skills
just seem to get better and better every time. Love the
various effects you use on the vocal tracks throughout. Very
creative and well put together.
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Peter Greenstone said 5184 days ago (August 9th, 2005)
Lots of energy...
Thanks, jgurner. I learn something new with every song. Getting the first 90%
of the song produced is relatively easy and fast, but that last 10% really is where
the hours/days/weeks of work come in to play.
Check out my latest song called Iridium Flare (2013 Re-Release)
perceptualvortex said 5184 days ago (August 9th, 2005)
Excellent
song. I'm impressed by how frequently you're able to post these songs with such interesting vocals. Really great production again.
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perceptualvortex said 5184 days ago (August 9th, 2005)
Excellent
Oh yeah, I meant to add that while I typically really like your song art, the
pic here is my favorite yet... very, very nice.
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Peter Greenstone said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
Excellent
Thanks, PV. I always like trying out new things with my vocals. I nearly popped
a blood vessel singing that really high note near the end.

I'm glad you like my song art. This one is using a b/w photo I took in my
brother's suburban back yard using a red filter to enhance the early evening sky.
I did some colorization and added the ominous black hole/orb in Photoshop.
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stevel said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
Great track!
Very enjoyable, great performance and production
Steve
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aclarke said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
Maybe it's time...
to re-think the whole day job thing, Peter. Another nice do-
over.
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SlimGirlFat said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
Oustanding
I agree with Ac..
gotta rethink your day job!!!

Fantastic production.. and great vocals.
Love that high note.. heh heh

Slimmie
mikkinylund said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
Wow, wow, wow!
The one of the best song I've heard on here so farr! This just
a brilliant piece of work, from lyrics, vocals, arrangements
and production! The only thing I would change is the
ending, it sounds like the song is "just" fading out while it
could be a but more arranged..? Anyway, that's just a small
"picky" notice... This is great! Thanks!

Mikki
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Peter Greenstone said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
Wow, wow, wow!
Thanks, Mikki. You're probably right about the ending. I'm sure it could have a
more interesting finish than a fade. I'm preparing to put togetehr an album and
I'll consider comments like yours for the absolute final CD versions of the tracks.
Which reminds me, how's that little organ part you were doing for me coming
along?
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said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
Stunning....
I shrink away from giving nines on the voting, in
part, because I have a hard time calling any song
"stunning., took my breath away." Well, I am still
breathing, but this song is stunning. The whole
song construction from lyrics to instrumentation to
a totally cool arrangement... your performance
(man, you can sing these songs!) and production
effects... originality/creativity (try finding a song
like this on your radio dial).... overall (see comment
above).

Peter, I agree with AC and SGF... although like
Harry, you've got a daytime job and doing alright,
I can only wonder if one day you might become
another MJ alumni that gets "found." Of course,
now you're talking gigs, travel, interviews, endless
streams of fans and groupies, Grammy Awards
ceremonies... nah, too tiring... forget it. Sorry I
mentioned it.

Any way, nice song!!

Jack
Peter Greenstone said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
Stunning....
Thanks, Jack. I really appreciate the encouragement you all have been giving
me. Who knows where it's all leading? But I'm just having a grea time making
the music and sharing it.
Check out my latest song called Iridium Flare (2013 Re-Release)
Cameron said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
lush arrangement!
There's a lot going on in this mix and you manage to
balance it all very well. The arrangement is very
"professional"-sounding. Your new, improved recording
gear really does make a difference -- along with your
continually-improving recording skill.

Through my headphones, the "highs" were a little
prominent, but a bit less so when I cranked up the
volume.
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Peter Greenstone said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
lush arrangement!
Thanks, Cameron. Louder makes everything better ;-)
Check out my latest song called Iridium Flare (2013 Re-Release)
dbz_inuyasha said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
Neato
Cool song.. I like it

I think that sometimes it needs a little more in the background though.

~ERIKA!~
Mystified said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
You've done it again, Peter...
Excellent.
Excellent.
Excellent.

Keep making music, would you? ;)
And thank you so much for sharing it.



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Willywagga said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
Supertight
As everyone else has already said, Well Done great song
terrifically tight and seamless, your voice consistantly
reminds me of David Bowie during his Lodger phase, your
music suggests Prefab Sprout wall of sound abit in my head,
which is pretty brilliant in my mind.
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dented said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
Very nice
Vocals and guitar sound great. To me, this has a U2 flavor, but not as annoying. Great work dude.
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Ed Hannifin said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
It's the mix of things...
...that takes this to the next level...

You've got a lot of Bowie influence in the vocals, sure, but
a lot of you...and as noted below, some elements of
middle period Bowie production...but then you have more
spangle and drive in the guitars (and I really love the
guitar in this song) and more variation than Bowie did...

Another song where I can't wait to get my headphones
on...I can just TELL...

Great song. Lyrics real good and never the expected...even
the form is different...

You know the ONLY thing I don't particularly like on this
one? The title. To me, 'The Pain Game' sounds a little
teenage angst and cliche. The song ISN'T and DOESN'T,
but, not knowing it was you, I almost didn't investigate
the song because the title put me off.

Small quibble, though, and only brought up because I
would want people drawn in to this song. It's great.

Ed
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Peter Greenstone said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
It's the mix of things...
Thanks, Ed. Glad you like. I guess I can understand what you mean about the
title but it seemed like an appropriate name to me. It's one of those things that
can be very different from person to another as far as what assosiations come
up with some words.
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_nderscore said 5183 days ago (August 10th, 2005)
spit shine..
& then some. you have surpassed perfection. beautiful, man
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jiguma said 5182 days ago (August 11th, 2005)
When is that CD coming out again?
Peter, You know how much I admire your music, and this
is just another in a string of outstanding tunes you've
posted. You are one of the few MJers with a distinct
"sound" regardless of the style of music you're doing.
Maybe we need a "pgreenstone" genre added to the list?
Love everything about this, but most of all the fantastic
sound you get on your vocals.
Brilliant!
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Peter Greenstone said 5181 days ago (August 12th, 2005)
When is that CD coming out again?
Thanks, jguma. I hope to get the album (CD) done soon. I'm working on a new
song to go on it but waiting for a part from another MacJammer that is taking a
long time to get. The other tracks are pretty much done, maybe just a couple of
tweaks here and there. Then I just need to design the cover and insert and get a
batch off to CD Baby. I think it will have 12 or maybe 13 tracks.
Check out my latest song called Iridium Flare (2013 Re-Release)
obbster said 5182 days ago (August 11th, 2005)
Wow
This sounds fantastic. Great Vocals, Great Melody.

Nice.
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Macaudion said 5182 days ago (August 11th, 2005)
Yummy!
Tasted good to the ear Peter. Excellent job! Hungry for
more please... - Very, very nice


Cydniko
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said 5182 days ago (August 11th, 2005)
ouch...
interesting lyrics...thought provoking as always...quite a departure from the whimsical jellyfish song...i am not sure if i agree with the message of this song though (which is subject to various interpretations depending on the listener)...i agree that status quo or stagnancy would put any game to death, including the game of life, but i don't think pain should numb your senses or make the light fade away...if anything, i think pain should make you feel more alive and conscious of all the nuances of life...i mean, if you had to play the same game over and over again, wouldn't you try to learn from the first round so that you can win in subsequent games?... till you are the winner again and again....(i guess it depends who is throwing the dies)...anyway, please excuse my digression...cool song, cool vocals...how many times, how many times :-)
Peter Greenstone said 5181 days ago (August 12th, 2005)
ouch...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, Mikki. Try to look at this song as a
slice of life, the experience and perspective of particular characters rather than
as a general statement about life. Sometimes my lyrics are directly in line with
and inspired by my own personal feelings and experience and other times they
are written to express more fictional perspectives, sometimes beliefs that are
counter to my own, and sometimes ideas that are derived from conflicting parts
of myself. I actually approach this theme from another angle in "No Matter The
Weather".
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jackstone said 5182 days ago (August 11th, 2005)
Nice song!
Great melody and high level sound!
I really like it!
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bronco said 5182 days ago (August 11th, 2005)
Waves of Sound
Another beautiful production and song Peter! I wish I had
your desire and drive to make every note perfect because
in most cases you achieve the impossible and do make
them perfect.
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Peter Greenstone said 5179 days ago (August 14th, 2005)
Waves of Sound
Thanks, Bronco. Personally, I like the rawness of your music. There are things
that could be polished up some but overall I like your easy going sound. I was
at Carlos & Charlie's on the lake the other night and there was a band playing,
and for a moment I thought I heard a little of you in the singer's voice.
Check out my latest song called Iridium Flare (2013 Re-Release)
thetiler said 5181 days ago (August 12th, 2005)
Your music is fun to listen to
Lots of professional rock feelings, super.

Peter, you have the midas touch!

Keep up the good work! No I don't have to say that, you do
keep up the good work:^)

Peter, your a hit factory!
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CIPHER said 5181 days ago (August 12th, 2005)
Amazing 80s pop!
Sounds dated but who cares? The 80s churned out some
amazing songs and amazing bands. Nice strong voice,
wonderfully simple and refreshingly unaffected (a la Scott
Stapp, Britney Spears etc).

You really sound like Bowie man. It's creepy.
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chimptone57 said 5181 days ago (August 12th, 2005)
Not too bad
Your song is very 80's ala Bauhouse or The cure. which an't to shabby. Also reminds me of The Spent Poets.

Kepp Chuggin'!

Paul
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Hapster said 5180 days ago (August 13th, 2005)
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said 5180 days ago (August 13th, 2005)
Well Done, Peter
Excellent song, excellent performance and excellent
production.
TennesseeVic said 5180 days ago (August 14th, 2005)
Nifty
Several things in this arrangement work quite well. This is
clearly a very carefully thought out job. The guitar parts are
definitely creative.

Just one thing that bothers me. After "it hurts the same"
there is kind of a bridge, where you repeat the same bar 4
times or so, with nothing much happening. To me this
suggests that the energy will pick up again after that. What
happens instead is that you go to a break. It just feels wrong
to me, structurally.
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Peter Greenstone said 5179 days ago (August 14th, 2005)
Nifty
Thanks, TV. I understand what you are saying. It works for me but, listening to
it with your comment in mind, I can imagine something else going on in there
that might work better. Not sure exactly what but some fragments of ideas
come to mind.
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tmcfate said 5179 days ago (August 14th, 2005)
near perfect
this is so well thought out, like a lot of your more
recent work. you definitely are on an upward path
with production. thats what worries me. i think your
song might be getting to clean. not that i dont like
this. not my point. i would like to see a little less
predicability. the passion i there but i think the
production might be holding it back
8-9-7-8
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Peter Greenstone said 5179 days ago (August 14th, 2005)
near perfect
Thanks, tmcfate. I try to keep the soul of the songs while polishing the
production. It's a fine line. Some songs do call for a more refined production
and others call for more rawness. Sometimes my first drafts have qualities that I
just can't recreate when I produce.
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thoddi said 5179 days ago (August 14th, 2005)
Impressive work
Do you play everything yourself? Very impressive anyway. Read through some of the comments here, and I just wanted to get in line and give my support. You really have something going man:)

Play on, Thoddi
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Peter Greenstone said 5179 days ago (August 14th, 2005)
Impressive work
Thanks, Thoddi. Yes, it's all just me in the cluttered corner of my spare
bedroom/office.
Check out my latest song called Iridium Flare (2013 Re-Release)
ez3kiel25 said 5178 days ago (August 15th, 2005)
Big sound
Nice work, really big sound, I like this very much.
ez3kiel25 said 5178 days ago (August 15th, 2005)
Big sound
Nice work, really big sound, I like this very much. I played it
twice!
Lewad said 5175 days ago (August 18th, 2005)
Good work
Nicely put together. In my humble opinion you've got kind of
a Brian Molko vocal going on....which is not altogether a bad
thing. I will be looking up more of your work.

Good skills.
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Peter Greenstone said 5175 days ago (August 18th, 2005)
Good work
Thanks. I've never heard of this Brian Molko person. Maybe I know his music
but not the name. I'll have to go look him up.
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Sista Mac said 5167 days ago (August 26th, 2005)
Amazing!
Wow, you are very talented! Excellent work. I like the vocal layering.
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Boris the Bull said 5117 days ago (October 15th, 2005)
thoughts from the bull...
just heard this song played on the KSVY radio program (Slimgirl Live
show) and was just blown away. immediately went and downloaded.

great work by a tremendous talent. thank you, Peter!
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jmogielnicki@wes said 5080 days ago (November 21st, 2005)
Great!
I am currently in the process of listening to all of your songs. I feel Ive stumbled upon a goldmine. Im especially impressed with your incredible variety and the ease with which you seem to be able to play and produce music in whatever genre you please. I just went from the eeirie and sparse acoustic Emmet to the angsty and driven Pain Game and it all sounds fantastic.

Thank you so much for sharing your music on macjams.
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said 4137 days ago (June 21st, 2008)
Great!
A great listen, excellent work and fine production. Your album is great..

Take Care
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ManGodDamn said 3725 days ago (August 7th, 2009)
Super sound
Real nice tones and timing and the lyrics are somewhat haunting . Very enjoyable . I would enjoy hearing many more songs or musical numbers by this creative artist . Great work !
ManGodDamn said 3725 days ago (August 7th, 2009)
Super sound
Real nice tones and timing and the lyrics are somewhat haunting . Very enjoyable . I would enjoy hearing many more songs or musical numbers by this creative artist . Great work !
ManGodDamn said 3725 days ago (August 7th, 2009)
Super sound
Real nice tones and timing and the lyrics are somewhat haunting . Very enjoyable . I would enjoy hearing many more songs or musical numbers by this creative artist . Great work !
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