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雨 (No.21)


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The Composer

 Genre: Classical

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This is the main piece I wrote for uni this semester. Classical is not really the word I'd used to describe this (as its technically atonal, indeterminate and mobile)... but it suits what most people would probably class this as I reckon.

Even though I said this piece is atonal, it doesn't sound like it, so don't get scared away. If anyone's interested in how this was written, or even the score itself, feel free to contact me.

雨 is the Japanese symbol for 'rain.' I've called it this because the piece reminds me very much of rain and also because my gamelan teacher remarked that he could hear the gamelan all the way through it. Unfortunately the Indonesian word for rain is 'Hujan' which just doesn't appeal to me that much... but I did like the asian influence... hence the 雨 symbol... which actually looks like rain which helps lessen the need for a translation.

Important Listening Advice
Listen to this in a nice comfortable chair, on a decent speaker system and in a quiet room. The piece starts incredibly softly and slowly and gradually picks up momentum as the piece goes on. If the room isn't quiet, you may not be able to even hear the first few minutes of the piece... or the last few minutes of the piece will be far too loud. I've also suggested headphones because the two piano's can sound un-balanced in headphones as minimal editing was done to this piece.

The piece is performed by myself and my good friend, Alex Garsden.
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perceptualvortex said 4845 days ago (June 14th, 2006)
Rain
is right. It has that feel, of sitting sheltered with the rain coming down...especially the build from a few droplets to all out downpour. Despite getting kind of hectic and full of drama, I found this to be a soothing listen all the way through.
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chikoppi said 4845 days ago (June 14th, 2006)
Where's my towel?
This just pure emotive craziness! Its very interesting how the dissonant
notes evoke different moods and sensations, sometimes sad,
sometimes alarming, sometimes creating tension and sometimes
releasing it. Its also very cool how melodies emerge and dissapear
during the interplay between the two pianos. One moment I'm listening
to random notes and the next I hear two distinct phrases, only to have
them slip away again. Cheers for allowing this piece to begin so softly
and giving it enough time to materialize. The effect is very pleasing.
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The Composer said 4845 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
Where's my towel?
Thanks for listening Chikoppi. I love the what you are saying about invoking
different moods and the interplay between melodies of the pianos because I
actually didn't write any of it in. I only ever wrote chords in this piece and left
it up to the performers what notes to play, when and how to play them (in
most cases)... so all the melodies you heard are purely improvised. Whats
more, all the harmonic changes and dissonance follows a very strict process
of the chords moving around the circle of 5ths in the one direction.

Why am I particularly happy about all of this? Normally you have to sacrifice
the process to get something musical... or in following a strict process you
get something ugly sounding. In this case though, I am very very happy
about both the process and the outcome.

Thanks for listening.

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Stun Nutz said 4845 days ago (June 14th, 2006)
.. . . , . . , . , , ,. , ,, ...,.
Beautifully structured chaos gently performed... very much enjoyed... I only wonder if it should have faded away a little more gently, like the intro... or maybe not...
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The Composer said 4845 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
.. . . , . . , . , , ,. , ,, ...,.
Thanks for listening Nutz, I had thought about fading/slowing down the
ending... which would make sense of course... after all the piece built up so
much momentum that its hard to stop it quickly. But, I also liked the idea of
building up so much energy and then taking it away in an instant... like being
sucked out into space and having no air to breathe.

Anyway... thanks for listening.

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said 4844 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
Interesting and Beautiful
I hear echoes of Eno, Cage and a less mechanical Nancarrow.
The rain title fits perfectly.
I was left wanting to hear more.
Bravo.
Tadashi Togawa said 4844 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
Sound of blessing
In Japan, June is a rainy season.
The outside rains now.
Japan is an island nation.
A warm Black Current makes the cloud.
And, a lot of rain is made to fall in islands.

Rain is given.
The sound is given.
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The Composer said 4844 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
Sound of blessing
Thankyou for listening Tadashi. One day I hope to make it to Japan... I love the
art work, the trees and even my favourite Jazz album is Dave Brubecks
Impressions of Japan. So I'm very glad you enjoyed this one.

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Tadashi Togawa said 4842 days ago (June 17th, 2006)
Sound of blessing
I love also "Impressions of Japan".
Japan is a country of the forest.
There are a lot of trees with broad leaves.
Your favorite tree is surely found.

By the way, i listened to two songs that you recommended.
It is happy and very excellent.

Thank you very much.
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Macaudion said 4844 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
You don't come out that often
But man when you do, you're never just 'whistling dixie'... And this did
invoke the feelings and experiences that I always associate with rain -
Usually contemplative while sorting through an array of feelings and
emotions about one, or many different things. But mostly, I think that
I'm just watching each drop fall, and not unlike the passing of those
seemingly random thoughts - Sometimes the intensity of thought rises
to the point of being overbearing where like the rain, you can't see
each individual raindrop fall anymore and ya just shut down the
accounting process, not unlike this piece was brought to the end of it's
storm - Masterful, Bryan - Thank! - Dion
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The Composer said 4844 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
You don't come out that often
Thanks muchly for listening Dion... and yes... I do try to dance to the beat of my
own drum... I have a habit of clapping various polyrhythms over someone
standing next to me during the applause of a concert or something. I don't
think they notice... but I'm sure it'd be wierd if they did.

Thanks for listening again!

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Macaudion said 4844 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
You don't come out that often
Ha hah! I do the same thing, only while stomping a beat w/ my feat to - If
sitting, I often wonder if the person on either side of me can feel the seat
vibrating to these odd time signatures - That's funny...

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urbnite said 4844 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
random thoughts.
at first i was wondering why there were two pianos, but i'm beginning
to understand why.

very interesting piece. especially considering that you've basically just
written chords and allowed improvisation. i would say that definitely
takes this out of the classical genre and pushes it more towards jazz,
even though the jazz tonality rooted in the blues isn't there. it does
have the kind of energy, though.

i love how this builds momentum.

actually, the atonality of this now that it's built is making me think of
free jazz. although it's probably less free than free jazz.

this definitely has a very strong emotional effect. rain, yes. building
emotions. how on earth are you guys following in time?

great performances. only second take, you say?

it's over now... so is my comment. sorry if it's just random thoughts,
but i guess maybe that suits the composition.
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The Composer said 4844 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
random thoughts.
Random thoughts are fine Urbnite... after all, the piece is centered around
controlled chaos. Thanks for listening and your thoughts!

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kristyjo said 4844 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
Interesting Composition and explanation
of your influences and ideas behind the piece. I like the rising tonality,
and the fact that you did this in an improvisitory way (and explained that)
means, of course, that this piece will never be performed like this again.
(How did you know when to stop together?) Great, evocative piece.
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kristyjo said 4844 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
Interesting Composition and explanation
of your influences and ideas behind the piece. I like the rising tonality,
and the fact that you did this in an improvisitory way (and explained that)
means, of course, that this piece will never be performed like this again.
(How did you know when to stop together?) Great, evocative piece.
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loyd vader said 4842 days ago (June 17th, 2006)
a gentle chaos
one piano is that comedian from hey hey its saturday who recited weird poetry in a spun out voice. and the other piano is the little blonde haired boy who sometimes accompianies him in the red beret, standing on the box. tried to look up there names but no luck. if you know who i mean, you will know what i mean.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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The Composer said 4842 days ago (June 17th, 2006)
a gentle chaos
Lol! I used to love those guys!, they were hilarious and they did everything so
well! But alas, I don't remember the names... thanks for listening Loyd.

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jiguma said 4840 days ago (June 20th, 2006)
a gentle chaos
He's the master of ceremonies on "Rock Whizz" - the guy behind Julia Zemiro.
Neil

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loyd vader said 4838 days ago (June 21st, 2006)
a gentle chaos
his name was Raymond J Bartholomeuz and he was played by Brian Nankervis who is a host on rockwiz on sbs.
dont know name of kid but.........

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springclock said 4840 days ago (June 19th, 2006)
so so so so
gentle....like a baby breathing in the forested mountain arms of God....a
fantastic journey....this is really really good....I don't know what else to
say....you don't need any help....none at all....one of the most compelling
offerings on MacJams....Hell this is bigger than MacJams...You Piano
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alfalpha said 4840 days ago (June 19th, 2006)
%u96E8
Nice one again Bryan!

I love the 'build up' & also the 2 piano's spacing......


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dreadmon said 4840 days ago (June 20th, 2006)
Wonderfully evocative
Another brilliant piece, Bry - you are quite a chameleon - this is such a bold and suggestive movement - you really should have a fabulous career doing motion picture scores - I really enjoyed this, especially since it's so atonal and challenging. Reminds me of Phillip Glass, which is meant to be a supreme compliment!
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jiguma said 4840 days ago (June 20th, 2006)
Bloody excellent!!
Bryan - I hadn't expected to be blown away by this, but, that was the
result. I'm not very experienced with this kind of music, but somehow
you make it accessible for me. Maybe it's because we "know" each
other through MJ and I try that little bit harder to understand, maybe
it's just because it's simply very good music.
To me this was a poem about a Sydney rainstorm - the warning drops
- big and full of anticipated chaos in the ozone riddled air, leading to
the big drop and finally the puddled ground when the sky magically
shuts the tap.
Bloody excellent!!
Neil
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allsaints said 4831 days ago (June 28th, 2006)
title
I really enjoyed this piece, as I do all of yours. If indeed it is an
improvisation around the chords you wrote, I would be most interested in
hearing other musicians interpret this piece as well. The result could be
interestingly different. (that is a bad sentence, but I don't feel like fixing
it).
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Bubowski said 4823 days ago (July 6th, 2006)
Aleatoric Debussy
A beautiful work. Nice blending of Aleatori compositional techniques with listenable tonality. Well played as well.
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atonalis said 4809 days ago (July 20th, 2006)
melting pentatonics..........
especially the beginning. with striking minor2nd dissonances here and there...... i think it is not atonal, but indeterminant as you said - indeterminant in tonality as it changes quite a bit..... almostlike the ultrachromatics......... the tempo is on the rise the entire way through - as is the volume dynamic of course. was this almost an aleatory/chord chart/type of score? sounded like it was very free. but the two of you knew when to modulate the tonic..........

no critique, as i find it difficult to find fault in more pure forms of expression. just a damn fine listen.
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Warren Smith said 4735 days ago (October 2nd, 2006)
order and chaos
The mind seeks order from chaos - and it seemed like everytime I listened to this chromatic conundrum I found something to grasp onto ... only to have it crumble as soon as I gave it a squeeze.

While it certainly evokes the onset of a rain storm, I thought the way it builds, builds, builds to a climax is more reminiscent of a flood that starts with a trickle and cascades in intensity until the levee breaks ... or maybe a political debate, or a drunken argument, where two people are talking generally, but not specifically, about the same topic ... or even a sexual encounter.

But I don't think one has to "figure it out" to appreciate the creative concept or enjoy the performance. Both stand out as being top notch.
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guitarslashsolo said 4696 days ago (November 10th, 2006)
Absolutely Great
I am a music composition major at my college, and I must say that this piece is absoultely brilliant, it seems a lot like a tone poem, but obviosuly without the poem. is that what you had in mind when you wrote this?
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The Composer said 4695 days ago (November 11th, 2006)
Is it a tone poem?
I wrote this piece with a specific meathod in mind. All the chords are based on and move around the circle of 5ths or on the augmented chord which still moves in the same direction.



Eg. the very first chord in the piece is C F Bb Eb (5ths going down) even though you don't hear it completely (as part of the indeterminate quality of the piece means that the performers probably won't play many of the notes of the chord in the early stages of the piece). And the chords continuously move around in that circle from CFBbEb to FBbEbAb to BbEbAbDb etc and as the piece progresses, the movement around the circle increases (instead of from C to F to Bb as the base note... from C to Bb to Ab... or from C to Eb to Gb etc).



The dissonance in the piece increases as the steps in the circle increases (fewer similar notes, more tritones) and when they move to the augmented chord (always one similar note, one dissimilar and one tritone).



Hopefully that answers some sort of question for you. Thanks for dropping by and listening!

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said 4231 days ago (February 18th, 2008)
Interesting
An interesting listen... sort of like a tonal tone row. I like the texture.
gregd said 4166 days ago (April 23rd, 2008)
Nice step out . . .
of the box. This reminds me of John Zorn's "music games" that he's played, where the musicians respond to colored cards that Zorn holds up and the secret rules of the game change the way the musicians play. Of course your rules are written in the score, but if that remains unseen then the effect is the same. Neat.
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timothy devine said 4000 days ago (October 6th, 2008)
way cool
this just shuffled up on the home page random player
Jarrett-esque
i got it for keeps man
nice nice piano playing
when you got cooking there seamed to a bit of Mcoy Tyner
Ireally enjoyed this
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Silky5 said 3229 days ago (November 16th, 2010)
Clever
I like this idea and it is simply magnificent. Well done ;-)
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VicDiesel said 2497 days ago (November 17th, 2012)
Wild
This came up in the jukebox.....

Fantastic piece. It starts deceptively quietly, but from there on it's just wild. I'm sure there is a system behind it, but the overall arc (and the pure emotiveness) makes it immediately appealing to the listener. Great stuff.
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