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Meeting Disillusionment



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A most unlikly trio of MJRs, each one contributed equally, I think... - I wonder if you can guess who we are, and what we did... If you happen to know because you were somehow let in on this through the development process, then don't - Eh, eh, eh...

And, no, it doesn't feel quite right asking you to guess 'what's the deal' because for one, you might not care that much - Two, you likely won't guess who we are or what we did in this, however, I'm positive that you'll be suprised -

Although I know that we're all here to learn, I sometimes feel that we're given too many answers right off the bat - Hope I don't seem like a butthead - Just trying to shake things up a bit, while creating a little interactive fun - Thanks again!

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ktb said 4697 days ago (December 7th, 2006)
eh, eh ,eh
lets see if i turn that around and play it backwards, i would get : he he he. I can't think of anyone who uses that phrasing. This is simply surreal. I was going to say it had everything but the tea kettle whistle but thats there too. Extrodinairy use of sounds. The various synth and fx snippets mesh nicely. The percussion is distinctly signature Macaudion. Very cinematic. The mix is DEEEEP. Makes my little imac speakers shiver. I suspect the other Mj contributor is a keyboardist?
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Macaudion said 4697 days ago (December 7th, 2006)
Thanks John, for stopping in. Good guesses, but I can accurately say that, Cydniko, or any artist formally known as, Cydniko, did not create the timpani for this piece. Good guess though. And thanks, again.

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drakonis said 4697 days ago (December 7th, 2006)
I will Menage a troi...
I mean, I will manage a try at guessing (sorry for the Freudian pun up there)... hmm... 3 of you aye? I was watching this new MacAudion character wondering when a tune would pop up. And this tune definitely has some strong touches that point me at some people. There is a very professional feel to the mixing and arrangement, and a particular laid-back jazzy/bluesy guitar sound that I usually attribute to only a few MJers that I know here. Then there's the overall structure and instrumentation, which has a particularly chaotic influence for some reason, and the percussion is intriguing, oh, and the fractal artwork really tastes familiar too... so, given that you are being coy with your identities, I will have to make a publically embarrassing guess, likely wrong, and hope that I do not offend anyone by choosing or omitting them... but the people I would guess are behind the curtain are: Ziti and/or more likely SoulMonk and/or McBoy, MissChaos, and PerceptualVortex or Cydniko. The prize I'd love to win is an extra month of free time this year to hang out on Macjams and write more music!
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Macaudion said 4693 days ago (December 11th, 2006)
Your such a kind soul, Drak - You've said some very nice things here. It's probably time that I let some of the cats outta the bag... - I can tell you that Jgurner is in on it. In fact, JG was the one who wrote/initiated this piece by sending it to me. What he sent was this intense melody being played by the piano, double Xtra bass, I believe it was, and w/ the tympani and synth bass.

When I first heard this, I immediately sent it to the mystery guitarist, thinking that this was perfect for him. I thought that the piece was very contemplative, and that the guitarist tends to play like each of his notes originate from deep thought. So he took it and played guitar all over the top of JG's stuff, and sent it back to me. I spliced and diced, midi'd some fx, added some percussive loops (tablas and shakers), a did use a one or two fx loops that I found - - I don't know if they are loops if you make them yourself or not, or how this works, but I made a bunch of the fx loops --

I can tell you that my part was taking Jgurner and the mystery guitarist parts, and I kinda glued them all together. I did apply a BUNCH of FX to many of the guitar parts. I mean I FX'd everything, and to the point that the MG didn't recognize a lot of his own guitar work.

So for me, it was kind of a kit project. All I had to do was take all of these wonderful pieces and glue them together. I didn't really have to add much to this, but I think that JG disagrees w/ me on this though.

I still don't want to reveal who played the guitar yet, because I'm intrigued by the guesses, thus far.
As honored as I am to be mentioned within the same breath as these folks, I have to say that there was no Misschaos, PV Fran or Soulmonk, -- ummm... okay, maby some heavy influence by Cydniko, but for contractual reasons, he wouldn't have been allowed to do any of the work on this so of course, he didn't --

Thanks for checking in Drak, and thanks for being such a good sport. D

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jgurner said 4693 days ago (December 11th, 2006)
Now that the cat's ut of the bag....
...and, I've never really figured out exactly why someone would want to have a cat in a bag. It just pisses off the cat and is none too good for the bag. Not to mention the fact that it's pretty cruel to the cat. Cats really don't like to be confined like that....

...but I digress...

The mysterious stranger is right in that I disagree over just how much of a contribution he made. The guitarist and I may have provided the raw material, but he did all the work, forging the raw ores into a finished product. Possibly working deep somewhere underground near the Pacific coast, would be my guess, until he beat the raw, white hot metal into shape, the shape of a ring, but not just any ring - a ring of power, with the ability to control the fate of all the races of Middle Earth....

...wait, what were we talking about again? Sorry, for a minute I tgot MacJams mixed up with Lord of the Rings again. My bad... :)

Seriously, I couldn't be more thrilled with where the others took the simple tune I started with. The guitarist (who was named in a forum, but not here, so I won'd drop the name yet), just did such a wonderful job interpreting the feelings behind the original piece. It's amazing and I'm just happy I had a part in it. Thanks guys for letting me play.

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Macaudion said 4690 days ago (December 14th, 2006)
Hey when did you sneak in here - Dude! Thanks for letting me play w/ this. I was then, and I'm still now, in disbelief that you let me have my way w/ this. A beautiful sketch you handed me. Well, really it was a whole piece, but it was a peice that welcomed me to add whatever.

You guys are the best! D
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jiguma said 4697 days ago (December 7th, 2006)
Nice groove Mr Macca
I know, I know - well at least 1/3 (maybe 2/3) - but I've been sworn to secrecy :)
Nice groove Mr Macca - deep and meaningful!
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Macaudion said 4693 days ago (December 11th, 2006)
Hey Neil
Always good to hear from you. Thanks for your thoughful words on this. It's okay guess what you want to about this. You probaly do know all of the other players on this. Mostly I just wanted to say, thanks for stopping in.


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MissChaos said 4696 days ago (December 7th, 2006)
I give up!

What or whoever it is, it's a helluva intense song. I WANT MY DOWNLOAD! I can be patient though. I'm in this for the long haul; I want to know the artists behind the brown kaleidoscope.
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Macaudion said 4693 days ago (December 11th, 2006)
Intense is the word huh... Kinda what disillusionment is... I thought that what each of these guys did was fairly intense. Thanks for stopping in, MissC. Always a pleasure. D
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said 4695 days ago (December 9th, 2006)
Cyd,Biz,EE,D-funk...I don't
And right now I don't care...this is a lovely tune yes it's lift me from my bed...I lay down and just flow away.....nicely done..Take care

Macaudion said 4693 days ago (December 11th, 2006)
Hey Kenta
Thanks Skean, for stopping in. Glad you liked it. D
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1 a.m. said 4693 days ago (December 10th, 2006)
great production
amzingly summery and chilled, cinematic, ambient and soundscore. A beautiful piece and beautiful peace.
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Macaudion said 4693 days ago (December 11th, 2006)
Thanks 1am! I appreciate the drop in! And thanks for all of the nice words that you've associated with this piece. Really appreciated it. -- D
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Alannah said 4693 days ago (December 11th, 2006)
... a warm and shimmery tune fer sure ... I'm not even gonna take a stab at who the trio are bacause just when I think I might recognize someone's musical style .. they mix it up .... I just wanted to say that I liked the tune. It's still shimmering in my memory after the music has stopped playing.
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Macaudion said 4692 days ago (December 12th, 2006)
Good guessing
Thanks, Alannah - Actually, you put two and two together in your guess in the forum... It is Jgurner and EJH - I just think that this is the coolest thing. Thanks for stopping in. It's always a pleasure to see your name - DionY
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said 4692 days ago (December 12th, 2006)
cooler than cool!
I wondered where you got to Dion...glad you re-incarnated! LOL!

Great collab here guys. Full of dark (yet somehow light as well!) ambient mystery. Tasty git licks by Ejh. Lovely piano and driving bass by jgurner. And your signature percussion Dion. All in a seamless blend of sonic delights. Kudosx3!

Be well!
Macaudion said 4691 days ago (December 12th, 2006)
Good to see you
Thanks for the kind words Mike! Yeah, this was fun to work on. I think that these guys are really talented and it was an honor to be able to play w/ their stuff. Thanks again, Mike.

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perceptualvortex said 4692 days ago (December 12th, 2006)
I feel like a latecomer here... been so busy with work, averaging 10 hour days recently and not terribly inclined to sit in front of my computer for leisure time... but I saw you'd posted a tune and had to check it out! And wow, what a cool collaboration! I like how there's big room to carefully consider each element of the song... you have time to walk around and check it out from different angles. My stuff is so dense, and this is a lesson in breaking down to the essense and presenting each voice with clarity.

And what's in here... great rhythms, really beautiful guitar and piano, lovely tones and spaces. Excellent work guys!
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Macaudion said 4691 days ago (December 12th, 2006)
Never ever too late, my friend
What nice words you share - Very thoughtful analogy, David. And it's one of the big reasons why I like seeing your name. But don't go changing what you do, cause I like very much how you can have things so densely packed w/ such goodness. You are not to be outdone my friend.

I just really enjoyed putting this together. Really felt lucky to be able to hang out with these guys!

Hope to hear something from you soon, David - I know that it's about time... - No... Thanks again, pal - D
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Ed Hannifin said 4691 days ago (December 12th, 2006)
Well, now that the cat's out of the bag...
I can jump in here and comment a little...

I knew I couldn't do it before and keep any kind of secret.

Let me just say, first of all, that the original piano and rhythm thing I was sent from D. and jgurner was very inspiring to work to...

And then let me just say that working with Macaudion the Mysterious remains a spiritual apprenticeship for me. I really get challenged on levels I don't like to acknowledge that I even have...

The way it works is, I get the original track. I sit down on a couple of nights and I do about eight tracks of electric guitar. I am chided not to use effects. I play in tempos that I customarily don't 'do'. We arrange an exchange of prisoners. I send the tracks to Dion. Then I wait.

When the "listen to this" tracks start coming back, NOTHING sounds like what I played to. The backing track is changed. The mix is different. New instruments are in it. Things I played along to are gone, but I'm still there, alone... There's some other guitarist on there... Dion assures me that it's me, but, um, edited and altered... I freak out via email. Dion calms me down via email, having the magical ability to make me feel foolish, callow and egocentric and yet, somehow, okay with that... As if 'foolish, callow and egocentric' is why he LIKES me..

Finally I come back to the notion that I didn't do this to end up with music that sounds like everything else that I play or have a hand in... I b'lieve the phrase is, "To let go and let Dion..." Or something like that...

And eventually, after all the drama, I can't wait to hear it posted and I find myself sneaking back for listens. And then I can't wait 'til the next one...

When I can walk across the Internet without tearing the rice paper, THEN I can leave the monastery...

Big thanks to jgurner and Macaudion for inviting me in on this...

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Macaudion said 4690 days ago (December 14th, 2006)
And then, there's you... You make me laugh - You did everything exactly how I hoped you would. And even down to trusting me, about you... You did this piece such beautiful justice - And it was a REALLY inspiring piece to begin with, but this made it all the better - You can put up a stinker of a fight at times, but it shouldn't be that easy for me with this huge amount of freedom that you tend to grant me. However, there is those many peices that no one but you and I have heard... One day...

And I look forward to the next match, too - I just love you, sir - Thanks again. D
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Bubowski said 4691 days ago (December 13th, 2006)
I love this tune. So spacial and ethereal, but warm and human at the same time. An incredible collab...you guys should be proud! Fav'd and DL'd.
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Macaudion said 4690 days ago (December 14th, 2006)
...not nearly as warm as your reception Bubowski. Thanks for taking the time to listen. You're helping to heal the wounds caused by my bestest mates, although, they meant well. I really apprecieate your supportt. Dion
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said 4691 days ago (December 13th, 2006)
Like lying out in the desert in the evening after a hot day and a cool, breeze comes over you.
Sorta started sounding a bit like Ennio Morricone & his Italian Western soundtrack work towards the end. Very nice.
PS. I'm pretty sure none of you are Ennio. ;)
Macaudion said 4686 days ago (December 18th, 2006)
Hey there, Bill
Thanks, Mungo - Now you have me curious about this Ennio character - I haven't heard of him/her/them. Always a pleasure to see your name too, sir. 'Hot desert, cool breeze'... - It wasn't what I was going for, but it certainly sounds more inticeing then 'meeting disillusionment' - Thanks again, sir - D
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composerclark said 4691 days ago (December 13th, 2006)
Very impressed - %u2013 %u2014 !
The title could mean "encountering disillusionment" -- something we all can relate to, I suspect -- or "becoming disillusioned with meetings%u2026" :-)

I don't really hear anything like disillusionment here, though; I just hear beautiful music, kind of mellow, trippy, laid-back, and very cool. I'm very impressed. This is high quality stuff.
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Macaudion said 4686 days ago (December 18th, 2006)
Glad to see you back!
These words coming from you are bigger than life coming from an established composer as proficient as you are, Mr. Ross. I'd be more than humbled if you'd just THOUGHT about stopping by for a listen, let alone actually doing so, and then leaving such kind and supportive words.

Thanks for all that you do to keep the bar high here, sir. D
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Scott Carmichael said 4690 days ago (December 13th, 2006)
travel points
sky miles...american express points... any way you put it .. it is a free trip... this takes me slowly away...no quick listen here.. it must be digested... quite beautiful... definately has you thunb print on it Dion
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j2morrow said 4690 days ago (December 14th, 2006)
A wonderful track. How this could be so calming and exciting at the same time baffles me. Nice collab.
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Mcboy said 4689 days ago (December 15th, 2006)
i give up.........i give up.....hu dat there.........hehhehhhe.........man u sure do put some soulful tracks together....kudos....
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Macaudion said 4686 days ago (December 18th, 2006)
Da Man!
Hey thanks for stopping by mister mcboy! Always a pleasure, of course. I know that you don't think that I'll ever post that tune, but I'm gonna, real soon! Thanks! Dion
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Cori Ander said 4688 days ago (December 16th, 2006)
Haha, Very nice guessing game .. I would never have guessed, not even close .. and interesting to read about your production ways.

And then it has turned out to a very interesing piece of music too!
Thank you folks!

PS Macaudion .. are you a new incarnation of a former and well established MJ:er? I kind of recognise something but don't remember your name .. (I have that kind of head that don't remember names) maybe something with Dion or something (I see you use that name).. confused Curry
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Macaudion said 4686 days ago (December 18th, 2006)
I think that people keep getting me confused w/ Dion - I get me confused w/ Dion, so I can see how this might happen - Dion just happens to be at the tail end of, 'Macaudion', so, maybe this is the problem. I'm happy being referred to as Mac, Macaudio, Audio or Dion. It matter not...

Thanks for stopping by Cori. Mac Audio Dion
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dreadmon said 4685 days ago (December 19th, 2006)
Dreamy good
Phat, Tight, Deep, High and Wide - I was right in thinking that this had the Dion percussive flava going on - clueless about who the others were, but now that it's been made obvious, no surprise that it sounds so meaty. Very enjoyable, a nice ride indeed!
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Denny Borsboom said 4685 days ago (December 19th, 2006)
Where does this come from?
The apprentice visits the Zen master, who is tending the garden. The apprentice asks: 'Master, what is the meaning of life?'. The Zen master silently continues gardening. The apprentice leaves, unsatisfied. The day after, the apprentice returns. 'But master', he says, 'please tell me the meaning of life!'. The Zen master does not say a word, and keeps tending the garden. The third day, the same thing happens. The apprentice exclaims: 'But master, why will you not answer my question?!'. The Zen master says: 'I have answered you three times'.

Why am I writing this? What does it have to do with the music? I wouldn't know. Does it matter? This music is what it is.

Thank you guys for posting this track.

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thoddi said 4685 days ago (December 19th, 2006)
I had to read through most of the comments and still I had no clue who you guys where... except for maybe the man in the mixing department..:)

Haven't heard Ejh playing the guitar like that before, and I'm very impressed. The base from jgurner is very creative, though I don't know what the first take would have sounded like before mr. D. got his hands on it.

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DOCTORBIZARRE said 4671 days ago (January 2nd, 2007)
Was it me on Guitar? Hmm Food for thought?
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said 4667 days ago (January 6th, 2007)
nice puzzle
You guys put all the pieces together and a beautiful art was rendered for admiration and visual pleasure.

"Musical Eye Candy"?

nice and relaxing...

. - Harold
StevilDarkman said 4648 days ago (January 24th, 2007)
very peaceful
Sounds great...so layered. Very warm and inviting, leaves so much to discover with each new listen. Sounds like floating. Great job. Pleasure to listen to.
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j2morrow said 4635 days ago (February 7th, 2007)
How did I miss this when you posted this? Must have been busy that week. Glad I came back to listen. Beautiful tune you have here. That rising whistle kept making me want to get up and check the tea kettle however:-). Thanks for the tune.
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j2morrow said 4635 days ago (February 7th, 2007)
My goof. I did check this out earlier and left a message. Ah well, this time, however, I made sure I downloaded it and faved it.

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annalia said 4621 days ago (February 21st, 2007)
Very Nice Guitar!
Really lovely guitar playin' a nice smooth build but not too much and a sweet little drum roll near the end. It makes me feel like I'm somewhere else, in a nice place. This is really a beautiful and relaxing mix and love the way that nothing over-rides the strings.
Thank You for sharing and I wanna hear more of your music as I have time.
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said 4607 days ago (March 6th, 2007)
YOur just a composer at heart! wow what a job, An excellent tune from the start to finish.:)
Techno Serb said 4597 days ago (March 17th, 2007)
cool :)
I love the sounds in this song!
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K.I.S.KISMET said 4594 days ago (March 20th, 2007)
blended, smooth...
and airy...what a delightful listen.Great choice of percussion...everything here is so balanced...GREAT JOB!
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dajama said 4514 days ago (June 8th, 2007)
Very nice track
with outstanding production values. This is rich, deep and wide. Very evocative and cinematic. It kept creating pictures in my mind as I listened. Talk about made for headphones! Very cool. Nice work. Peace.
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tokai said 4157 days ago (May 30th, 2008)
number, such beautiful touches you have. Lovely full rich amalgamation of sounds, you are a talented musician my friend, you know how to make a song work. It is never predictable but ebbs and flows like the tides, guitar work is really good hear. please tell me that you ae playing that! Inspirational stuff.
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said 4137 days ago (June 19th, 2008)
Meeting Disillusionment
This sounds ' Brilliant' I love what you have done here. Great production.
Some gorgous sounds. Cool. Wow!! I luuuuuuve it. :)
Love that art pic too. Thank you for the download.

Peace Dee.
saymme said 4015 days ago (October 19th, 2008)
Beautiful . . .
One of the beautifullest i've heard ...gracious !(!) : ) ThankYou it's such a treat to hear Music like this ! Heard EJH collab "it comes down to this" the first going to the 2 now !!! ( : i got a Birthdaysong in swedish if Your Birthday is coming up soon http://www.macjams.com/song/46817
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davisamerica said 3392 days ago (July 4th, 2010)
this is just an amazing track .... macca and crew... a double WOW
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hackneybloke said 3319 days ago (September 15th, 2010)
incredible track.
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Philip18 said 3011 days ago (July 20th, 2011)
Excellent work! A great blend of simplicity and complexity. So much happening that there's always something interesting there. The playing and the mix are outstanding. Much enjoyed!
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