Believe This (w/t Evolvweb)

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Tobin asked me to sing on his track, Believe This, months ago (3,4... I can't remember now). You can hear the original on his home page.
He sent me the track and I've spent forever tweaking and prodding, adding and subtracting ... at one point I described it as Nelly Futardo meets Joy Division (the JD bassline went). I kinda had a mental block on the track, couldn't decide which direction I wanted to take it ... a frustrating but interesting experience, as I think the song has mutated into something quite odd.

I don't know what I'd describe this as now.
I really wish I'd got someone to play real guitar on this.

Tobin, thanks for letting me play with the track ... hope you like it.

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Lyrics

Believe This.

1. We crumple like paper cups, who's gonna pick you up?

2. When engines fall from the sky, who's gonna put it right?

3. These buildings were made with love.

4. I never did no one good; but it's not too late for you.

Song Stats

Hits: 5148
Comments: 113
Fans: 53
Plays: 260
Downloads: 167

Uploaded: May 14, 2008 - 10:48:47 AM
Last Updated: May 18, 2008 - 11:12:05 AM Last Played: Nov 13, 2018 - 01:59:28 PM

Song License

Creative Commons License:
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Song Actions

Keywords:

evolvweb (16), echoroom (24), engines (1), believe (32)

Hardware:

Keystation keyboard
The mic that Phil bought me.

Software:

GB3 and 4, Logic 8, Ozone 3 (whilst reading the manual)

Comments

	logics8 said 3871 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Logics8 I like it.. Very good for the vocals. Check out my latest song called Womanizer Remix,

Skean	Skean said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Cool As always you sing your voice is outstanding... Very cool take on Tobin's track... Kudos Check out my latest song called Film in many acts

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five_extra_arms said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)

Hand Claps
The hand claps are a strong element in this song. I thought I'd get tired of them, but I never did. I guess it's a "We Will, We Will, Rock You" kinda primal rhythmic thing that makes it work so good. Really sounds great.

Steve, your vocals are as sharp as ever and your chorus of back ups compare to nothing in musical history!

I think the musical instrumentation is tight and rock solid performances on everything. Did Tobin play everything else for the most part?

Glad to see this clab happen.

DL'd

Check out my latest song called Draw

echoroom

echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)

I've got the claps
Man, I've been avoiding finishing this song forever, as you know... I think Tobin has emigrated. The drums were inspired by say it Right by Nelly F, not by Freddie M!
Actually, the only thing that remains of the original track is the left panned synth in the verse, but the song simply wouldnt exist without Tobins original, which is quite different, but a great track.

8 tracks of my vocals.... bliss (not!)

Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

guitapick	guitapick said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Great lyrics... ...and delivery. Tune's like a new Bowie, to my ear...cool extension... Can you sell me your voice? Check out my latest song called 'Cuz I Can

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Yeah Bob Can you sell me your hands???? 'cause they're wonderful!!!!! (see what i did there??) Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

guitapick	guitapick said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Yes... ...I saw... Peace, Bob Check out my latest song called 'Cuz I Can

Bob Rodgers	Bob Rodgers said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Great intro and great vocals Steve, I really like this and I love the hand claps, the instruments and production! Superb song and very much enjoyed! Check out my latest song called The Lonely Man

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Hey guitar man thanks for listening. s Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Henke

Henke said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)

Wow,
really cool track, guys! Up there with MissChaos' "Fragile" in my popularity list (and that's high up)!

One little suggestion: Is it needful with two "Attention" each time? OK, it does have a bit of question mark after it, but should'nt once be enough?

Also, it works great as it is already, but then again it would hurt no one if your vocie came forward a tiny bit more. Now it often sounds as one of the instruments, not THE leading one. But maybe that's just me.

Well done both of you, instant fav and dl of course! Thanks!

/Henke

Check out my latest song called Summer (Promenade) (WIP)

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Thanks henke... ... attention got your attention, eh?? I liked using the samples... one less thing to sing! i really wanted the drums up front and the vocal a bit more buried... its in there somewhere! LOL steve Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

thoddi	thoddi said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Bowie I thought I was listening to some Bowie tune for a while there... Fab production. Great tune, and super duper singing.! Check out my latest song called The King has left

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	That's ok... ... some days i think i am Bowie... but with better teeth! Thanks man! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Drew Kopr	Drew Kopr said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Superb! Wow man this is remarkably good! Just perfect in my opinion on really every level imaginable. Check out my latest song called IfIWereHigh

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Hey Drew ... have you come out of hiding? Great to see you... we must get together with Dave soon buddy! lol steve Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

ktb	ktb said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	catchy its great. I would not have caught the fact that the guitar wasn't the real deal. Its wonderfully placed and mixed. The whole tune has an instant appeal. Something worthy of many repeated listens. Love your vocal. Check out my latest song called Blackwater (by Tokai)

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Real i had to do a big work presentation recently, and did it as the Rat Pack, and sung 'under my skin' live at the end. A lady came up and insisted I'd mimed. I said no, I sung live, but when I spoke, THAT was dubbed! Thanks KTB... nice to know the fake sounded a little real! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

michael2	michael2 said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	wow steve this is your best in awhile. so damn hooky I can't even believe it. everything sounds amazing too. fabulous job reworking this, it's obvious that your time was well spent. Check out my latest song called Jazz Glitch Dub Experiment

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Thanks M I used to spend a lot more time on songs... this was more like the way I wrote older stuff, and has some of that feel... glad you think the effort was worth it! s Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

	said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Believe This WOW!!!! YOUR VOICE ROCKS !!! WELL GOOD. echoroom 8 tracks of your vocals BLISS !!! Well done and the backing music is Brilliant as well. Tobin Congrats too. Thank you for the DOWNLOAD. Hee Hee Peace Dee xx

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Thanks Dee ... lucky it wasnt 8 tracks of my terrible guitar playing! lol S Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

lengold	lengold said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Steve, you are the Guvnor Your patience,tweaking and prodding certainly paid off, big time. Fantastic production of a very catchy and well written and performed song - I tried reading the ozone manual once! It's the little videos on their site that get me. Love this and downloaded of course. Cheers Len Check out my latest song called Decent Girl

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	tweak! Thanks Len ... loved your latest track! APB put me on to ozone - i used the eq match (from madonnas 'music') and a number of presets... i think it worked! s Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

	said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Classic! This is echoroom's classic. Great vocal delivery (as usual) and gorgeous orchestration and music work. I wish I have time to work a guitar but it sounds good here. KUDOS guys, happy to hear a new tune from you. Classic! Take Care - Yeman A. Al-Rawi

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Hey yeman Thanks for dropping in. Tobin deserves a lot of kudos for the music... this wouldnt exist without him. Yeah, i shoulda got you to play o this.... next time! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Steve! this is so excellent. I applaud the clapping! As always great vocals. Outstanding production & mix. The 3 or 4 months was worth the wait. Great take from Tobins original If I Iistened to this before I just posted I may have reconsidered. Check out my latest song called Feeding The Sharks

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Reconsidere??? Ditto robo boy. glad you liked my big claps... more clapping on MJs! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3869 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	oops! that probably didn't sound right. It was something I should have taken some extra time and gone ahead with on my tune. Check out my latest song called Feeding The Sharks

Feter	Feter said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	Believe This WOW ... great vocal and arrangment ...my memory so blind today but I realy hearin a very cool rockin band playin on my ears .cool harmony work at the answers ..just fabulous what a song thnx for sharin !!!!! Check out my latest song called Roll with it

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Thanks feter The band is just me and Tobin, 1000s of miles apart... dontcha love the internet? s Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

rsorensen	rsorensen said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	wow wahhh this is cool! so catchy and familiar, yet original. great idea with the handclaps. love the overlapping vocals. hot damn this is good! Check out my latest song called Again

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Hey man original is just stealing something and making it sound new! Thanks for the pimp for Vic and i in the forums ... appreciate it, comic book guy! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Willywagga	Willywagga said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	pish as always Steve very high quality toon here, you have a way with phrasing that really lifts a song up, this is a perfect example of that. Apart from the strong Mr Jones influence I also hear a little (dare I say it) Culture Club vibe goin, and of course the Furs are preening in the background. Magiko Man. Check out my latest song called The Jes on Sea Road

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	boy/ George? Culture Club??? fookin ell, you trying to say i wear a dress??? Anyway, long time fan of the P Furs, so that may have leaked in. When you gonna post something new???? Its been ages! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Scott Carmichael	Scott Carmichael said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	this IS excellent work Steve... the octive vox.. the backing layers... your thumbprint passion... very creative.... I'm tired but not too tired to nod in your direction... hat is tipped Check out my latest song called Glimpses MIXBUS

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Hey big guy.. .. thanks for the tip... nice to hear from you Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Ed Hannifin	Ed Hannifin said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	So... How's it feel to be a genius? Is it like being other people, or like being more yourself? Do you find that when engines fall from the sky, that people buy you mics? This is great, Steve. Singing, production, mixing, mastering... Ultra cool... Hard to see the seams, but this collab certainly works. Ed Check out my latest song called Chime (Alone) (Inspired by Particle Dots)

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Hey Ed Oh, genius is hell, especially sat reading the ozone manual and not understanding it and wondering how the hell Alan and Racerat get their songs sounding so damn good?! If i was a genius, it would take me hours, not months! thanks for listening Ed - always a pleasure ... hope to hear something new from you soon. Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Ibstrat

Ibstrat said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)

This
is like a perfect song.Everything is mixed perfectly and the vocals are superb.Even though the song uses a pretty standard chord sequence I didn't get bored at all.(Of course most blues songs have 3 chords but look at what Muddy Waters,Hendrix,Robert Johnson,etc. did with it.)Just shows what can be done with a simple concept,plenty of soul and lots of creativity!

Check out my latest song called What the

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Chords Hey mark - i think this is just one four chord sequence repeated, which is how Tobin wrote it, and a lot of my stuff is the same, as I'm not really a musician. But you're right, by working on song structure and different musical and vocal ideas it 'diguises' the simplicity of the track (and the singer!). Thanks for listening s Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

kassia	kassia said 3870 days ago (May 14th, 2008)
	amazing The vocals on this are just amazing! You did an incredible job and as always your lyrics are stellar. Definitely has a Bowie sound to it, but it reminded me more of "The Echoing Green" than anything else. It's a really cool tune - wanted to clap my hands right along with it! Thanks. Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Echo-ing Hey Kass - I hadnt heard of Echoing Green but checked them on itunes... great stuff. Thanks for checking this out... really enjoyed your latest posting. Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

racerat

racerat said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)

masterful
Masterful song my friend. I the time and care you spent on this one really shows, it is a masterpiece. Pro-mixing of a very complicated piece--Boy 8 vocal tracks...glad you counted me out,...but then again no, I'd love to have been part of this gem, but it's all you--and of coarse Tobin! Very complex and moving. (I hear shades of ELO's lush harmonic backing vocals myself...)

Plus your mic sounds great....

P

Check out my latest song called Paper Thin

echoroom	echoroom said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Hey Dude ...its the mic that did it! I recorded 2 x4 vocal tracks in a seperate project, without fx, then mixed them down to two tracks, and just panned 'em left and right, so it wasnt too hard to mix. wish you coulda done guitar on this... that's working life man! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Leon

Leon said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)

yeah..again!
Steve, it's 2 AM here, and I just can't resist having to make a comment about this song at this unholy hour.. Yeah, it's that good :-) This has a modern vibe, indeed ala Nelly Furtado meets Bowie (why does this guy's name keep coming up?) It's like giving Bowie a 21st century makeover. Totally digging and tripping on this, and I rarely say that about anything when I am about to hit the sack. You continue to surprise me with your ever-changing style and vocal versatility.

Check out my latest song called Just Another Day

echoroom	echoroom said 3869 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Hey Leon always great to hear from you ... that makes me the love child of Dave n Nelly - nice! Great to her from you, now get some sleep! s Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

lavalamp	lavalamp said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	It does..... have the vibe of that Futardo song. Bowianly sung, which is great every time. Really enjoy this. Fantastic job. You're one of this best around, mate. LL Check out my latest song called The Shallow People

echoroom	echoroom said 3869 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	The return of the thin white steve... thanks Dave... see you did a collab with 5 extra Bob - great stuff! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

jiguma

jiguma said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)

David ....
... I mean Steve ;)

This is really classy - vocally astounding, musically wonderful (which bits are Tobin?) and the production is as good as I can remember hearing here.

So this is Logic Pro 8 eh - are you using Ozone 3 with it or is that in the GB bits? I'm getting Logic Studio in the next few days and can't wait - I'm a bit worried about whether Ozone 3 will work on my new iMac though. Vic H insists that it's not necessary with LP8 - we'll see!

Steve, you've seriously raised the bar on this one - REALLY good!

Cheers from Oz,
Neil

Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)

jiguma	jiguma said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Did I mention .. .. I liked it? :) Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)

echoroom

echoroom said 3869 days ago (May 15th, 2008)

Production...
...is my weak point ... i listen to guys like you and the work you do astounds me... this took a lot of time but it seems to have paid off... i'm now itching to knock one out quickly (er, if you know what i mean!).

Logic studio is ace, and i have no problems using ozone. I actually think ozone, used properly, is better than the logic mastering tools, but then i dont really know how to us the logic tools properly.... i did a mix of this with logic, and i gotta say ozone sounded sweeter... hope this helps.... cant wait to hear what you do with logic!

s

Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Rebsie	Rebsie said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Cor Blimey Steve, you always turn in a fantastic performance. I won't use the DB-word, but it certainly does have that feel to it (I always liked his wonky teeth, actually). Excellent work all round and very creative prodding and poking. Check out my latest song called Amongst The Colours (w/ Luna Trick)

echoroom	echoroom said 3869 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	Thanks Rebs! Must admit, i never even thought of Bowie on this (maybe an upbeat Sisters of Mercy?) but i bow to the tide! My eyes are both the same colour too ... bugger! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

bud	bud said 3870 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Well Steve - once again you've taken your game to a higher level. All the struggle you went through on this has resulted in a very finely crafted piece with a lot of nuance and invention. Tobin's track sounds great and you really managed to make the most of the opportunities it presented. Great collab. Your voice sounds fantastic as usual. Check out my latest song called mixer 2

echoroom	echoroom said 3869 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	Quickly! Man, when i think of our collab, it was done in days. Maybe it suits me to do one track every four months, and become like an MJ Syd Barrett! Thanks for checking this out Bud... now i've got to go an walk our new Cairn! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Pete_NB	Pete_NB said 3869 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	One can tell... ... the amount of work that must have gone into it. The biggest telling feature is how natural and organic the final product is. The hand-clapping puts me in mind of a group of people celebrating something important, and this is something worthy of celebration. Kudos! Check out my latest song called One more One Shot

echoroom	echoroom said 3869 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	Natural... .. great compliment, considering the only live things here are the vocals! Thak you! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

8piscean8	8piscean8 said 3869 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Top-Notch This is top-notch Steve. The production is outstanding! You rock dude! Check out my latest song called The End

echoroom	echoroom said 3869 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	Well... ... I rock kinda quietly, not as loud as you! Thanks man s Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

8piscean8	8piscean8 said 3868 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	Too Your too flattering Steve. Check out my latest song called The End

craft	craft said 3869 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	very good this is a great song.. Well done folks... Check out my latest song called Valarty & AJ Craft - Burn (Alternative version)

echoroom	echoroom said 3869 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	.. but took forever... .. see what happens when you collab with me??? hope you have patience! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

echoroom	echoroom said 3869 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	.. but took forever... .. see what happens when you collab with me??? hope you have patience! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Roxylee	Roxylee said 3869 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Wow, Steve Your vocals tracks are amazing, along with the rest of this. It reminds me of Bowie,m too, but I like this better. The hand claps were quite cool, too. I really enjoyed this.:-) Check out my latest song called Emma, by davisamerica

echoroom	echoroom said 3868 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	Multi voice Hey roxy - the multi tracked voices are not dissimilar to your latest! Glad you enjoyed this - many thanks steve Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

aclarke	aclarke said 3869 days ago (May 15th, 2008)
	Speechless! ....freakin' wonderful song.....!!! mumble, mumble, stutter.... awesome....!! Check out my latest song called Right on Time 2014- feat. David McNair

echoroom	echoroom said 3868 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	Booze i LOVE that pic of you with the empty beer glass in front of you! Thanks for the kind words Adam. steve Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

aclarke	aclarke said 3868 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	Technically.... it's half full! Check out my latest song called Right on Time 2014- feat. David McNair

echoroom	echoroom said 3868 days ago (May 17th, 2008)
	i always thought.. ... you were a half full kinda guy! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

ledebutant

ledebutant said 3869 days ago (May 16th, 2008)

GACK!
Steve, what are you taking lately and how can I get my hands on some? This is ridiculously good. I don't have time to comment properly at the moment (I WILL be back) but I can't let any more time pass without letting you know that I've either had this song playing constantly on the iPod or have had it running through my brain since I first heard it. I've probably listened 30 times at least. I LOVE IT! I'll be back when I can be more intelligent. I have a lot more to say. I might actually say those things via an email.

Check out my latest song called Merton's Prayer (work-in-progress with Jim Bouchard)

echoroom	echoroom said 3868 days ago (May 17th, 2008)
	She'll be back! Sounds kinda threatening! What am i on... how long have you got ..... Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

blaky smith

blaky smith said 3869 days ago (May 16th, 2008)

The Event
I agree with all which is said here above, what to add ?
That I discover this morning a masterpiece at MJ and my day begins fine...
It's a great performance at every level Steve. Your style, vocals and music are absolutely remarkable and to crown the whole, the production is perfect ! A great pleasure to listen to this work Steve, thank you...
Marc

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echoroom	echoroom said 3868 days ago (May 17th, 2008)
	Hey marc Thank you... too kind, my friend. Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

DWL	DWL said 3869 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	Whatever you did this is a really fine piece of music. Wonderful production. Cheers Dick Check out my latest song called Cucamonga

echoroom	echoroom said 3868 days ago (May 17th, 2008)
	arrrgggh! I coulda got you to do guitar on this! Look forward to seeing you on the 3rd June! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

DWL	DWL said 3856 days ago (May 28th, 2008)
	Nah you wouldn't me spoiling it :-) Yeah, see you next Tuesday Cheers Dick Check out my latest song called Cucamonga

K.I.S.KISMET	K.I.S.KISMET said 3869 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	no question.. your both simply amazing! steve, your voice is stellar as usual!! clapping along happily... peace, k Check out my latest song called Mad Lands

echoroom	echoroom said 3868 days ago (May 17th, 2008)
	Hey K Thanks for checking me out... as it were...sounds a bit odd that.. cheers! s Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Bowman	Bowman said 3869 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	Steve and Tobin, What a wonderful treat from you both. Strong melody, terrific mantra lyrics delivered with conviction. I love the mix. Enjoyed every moment of this amazing work. Looks like the GW Bridge in the graphic. As a boy that was the view from my window in Washington Heights. Best, Charles Check out my latest song called HAVE HORN...WILL TRAVEL (take 2)

echoroom	echoroom said 3868 days ago (May 17th, 2008)
	Mantra i hadnt thought of that Charles, but its absolutely bang on, it does feel/sound like mantra, the repetition and the kinda chanted style. Really enjoyed your new track ... as always! s Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

	said 3868 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	That seals it! You are now my favorite MJ male vocalist Steve! Beyond excellent. This is totally pro! Release this on CD and I will pay top dollar for it. Be well friend!

echoroom	echoroom said 3868 days ago (May 17th, 2008)
	Get outta here! There's too many vocalists to chose from here. and you can have this for free Mike! Thanks bro steve Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

	said 3868 days ago (May 16th, 2008)
	(~A~) What should you do when you no longer believe in anything? : )

echoroom	echoroom said 3867 days ago (May 18th, 2008)
	Good question! Isnt that when love comes in? Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

chipan	chipan said 3868 days ago (May 17th, 2008)
	I'm fashionably late Something about your vocals and the electronic elements make parts of this sound (to me) a bit like the group erasure. (I really liked erasure- believe it or not.) Then the song just keeps evolving and getting odd (as you said), but in a good way and very fun to listen to. Very artistic. Excellent vocals as always. chip Check out my latest song called Psalm 107

echoroom	echoroom said 3867 days ago (May 18th, 2008)
	Erased interesting one, Chip - that's not a comparison I would have thought of immediately, but I'm trying desperately to remember some of their songs. I kinda like the contrast on this of the poppy-ness, the mantra-like qualities as Bowman says, and the oddness of the spoken voices. Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

	said 3867 days ago (May 18th, 2008)
	Nice one Steve We will have to get together and do a BIG handclap song one of these days I really like this and the obvious care you have taken with the production I don't really get the Davey Jones vibe on this either in the same way as I have with some of your other stuff To me this is just....ECHOROOM Bravo!

echoroom

echoroom said 3867 days ago (May 18th, 2008)

Clap!!!
Yeah, you're on... could be our Eurovision entry (too late this year!). I dont get Bowie on this at all, tho' so many people have mentioned it, I wonder if its the 'time time time' bit... I have to say, he wasnt at all an inspiration for this, but i always take it as a compliment. I appreciate you saying this sounds like Echoroom a lot... thank you!

Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Lightman-	Lightman- said 3867 days ago (May 18th, 2008)
	Wow The drums and claps, is really great to this song.... It sounds fantastic.... And the background vocals is beautiful..... I like it a lot.... Good lyrics.... Check out my latest song called You Are

cjdaley	cjdaley said 3867 days ago (May 18th, 2008)
	it's time time time someone compliments you for your lyrics. nothing but great lines. Who's this david Bowie, by the way. Does he ever post on MJ ? Check out my latest song called Big Bong Theory Overture (By the Monggz)

BossHook	BossHook said 3866 days ago (May 18th, 2008)
	Sounds like you got the handle on Ozone - this is a pro mix. So Bowie my friend. Check out my latest song called The Unraveling of Mary Alice Frances Parker Brown

evolvweb

evolvweb said 3866 days ago (May 18th, 2008)

Thank You!
Steve,

Sorry for my absence but I've been without a computer or internet up until today and just got the email...you should have seen the smoke coming from my keyboard trying to get to MJ to hear the final product!

You've been very generous with including me in the credits as this has really "evolved" beyond what I ever could have imagined. MJ really has taken music creation to the next level and it's a lot of fun to be a part of (however minor a role I may play).

I think the list of comments you already have sum up my feelings about what you were able to put together from my humble beginnings. Well done my friend, you are a genius!

Regards,
Tobin

Check out my latest song called Underwhelming

echoroom	echoroom said 3866 days ago (May 18th, 2008)
	All you! Hey Tobin - the original track was all you, and for some reason you asked me to sing on it, and let me poke and prod about with your track .... i'm really happy with what we've created here... thanks for letting me work with you on this. steve Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

davisamerica	davisamerica said 3866 days ago (May 18th, 2008)
	so you got my "attention" right from the kick off steve ... i honestly believe your vox is "Perfect" for this ... man this is killer ... Tobin ought to be grinning lie mad cos this rocks! Check out my latest song called ok char2(Vic and Flatrock mix)

echoroom	echoroom said 3866 days ago (May 19th, 2008)
	Attention! Hey Jack - thank you! To mix the vocal I nicked the settings Racerat had done for a song we'd collab on - they were a big help! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

alexweiler	alexweiler said 3865 days ago (May 19th, 2008)
	Fan post (I believe) yet again a high-skilled songwriter met an outstanding singer with the result of a radio compliant song (in a positive sense). steve, I think this time you've pushed the production level again (do I have to visualise you & ozone3 like a cook with a cookbook?). compliments to both ... Check out my latest song called The Glitch

echoroom	echoroom said 3865 days ago (May 19th, 2008)
	Hey Alex, I was very nearly gonna get you involved in this, as i thought you'd have done a great job on the beats, but persevered with it... this time! nice to hear from you, hope all is well with you Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

alexweiler	alexweiler said 3865 days ago (May 20th, 2008)
	Good as it is. flattering to read this, steve. Your decision was right: I really don't think, that I could have made this better! The beat is to the point here. Maybe next time ... I'd be glad to! P.S.: thanks, I'm ok; due to a lack of time I'm sidelined (pawing the ground). Check out my latest song called The Glitch

Dragonas	Dragonas said 3865 days ago (May 19th, 2008)
	Love it... Bowie voice (except even better) with amazing drums and great melody! Why is this not a huge hit on the radio????????????? I am listening again right now! Fav'd! Check out my latest song called Dragonian - Part I (1 of 6)

echoroom	echoroom said 3865 days ago (May 20th, 2008)
	On the radio??? I dunno, probably as there's no clear demographic for it or something! Cheers bud steve Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

dajama

dajama said 3865 days ago (May 19th, 2008)

Wow
Amazing vocal, and an amazing song! Haven't heard Tobin's original yet, but what a great collab result. The drums are perfect - great moving rhythm, and I like the handclaps - and the arrangement is perfect. I especially like the combination of synths and then the introduction of the acoustic guitar. Brilliant combination. Damn, this is good (currently on second listen...) especially for the vocal. Outstanding. This is brilliant. Can't think of a single thing I'd change about this. Sweet. Kudos, my friend. You just get better and better. Peace.

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echoroom	echoroom said 3865 days ago (May 20th, 2008)
	Thanks david loved the new bluesy you, btw! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

Mystified	Mystified said 3865 days ago (May 19th, 2008)
	Kudos! What a superb track! I know a lot of people have mentioned Bowie, but I hear elements of Spiritualized--especially in the chorus sections. Thank you :) Check out my latest song called Elevated--Miss Chaos/Mystified vox

	said 3864 days ago (May 20th, 2008)
	Great! I'm still listening my friend... there's no day pass without listening to it.. Man, kudos for your work on this masterpiece... Killer! Take Care - Yeman A. Al-Rawi

alfalpha	alfalpha said 3864 days ago (May 20th, 2008)
	Steve, Needless to say,you've probably heard this already- this is gobsmackingly terrific. The clarity is razor sharp- my earsdrums are simply ecstatic. I love your vocals- yup Bowie-esque, which is an A in my wee book. Tobin, once more, great stuff. Kudos to both you guys! Cheers, Alf Check out my latest song called Mania- w/DavisAmerica-The 'Sprout' Remix

echoroom	echoroom said 3864 days ago (May 21st, 2008)
	hey Alf Thanks for this.... glad you enjoyed it.... Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

magnatone	magnatone said 3853 days ago (June 1st, 2008)
	Believe This wow - this is excellent - I'm really sorry I missed it the first time through. I'm currently on my second listen to this - your lyrics/vocals are just outstanding. This song is so thoughtful, well produced, and if you know what I mean - wise. All your tweaking really paid off. Congrats to you both! Check out my latest song called Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen) and Variations

Dj French Toast	Dj French Toast said 3845 days ago (June 8th, 2008)
	Damn you sound like that dude from u2 and Bowie combined ....Cool song indeed ! Check out my latest song called Sweeter no doubt (Beat by Sweet 79)

Estella	Estella said 3819 days ago (July 4th, 2008)
	*Sigh* Of all the things I miss about macjams, hearing a new song of yours is at the top of the list!!! Gorgeous in its bold way of being strange. Love that your lyrics are a list. An odd-beautiful list at that. My favorites: 3 & 4. Be well. *E Check out my latest song called Insomnia

dolby

dolby said 3816 days ago (July 8th, 2008)

Interesting
Missed this Steve, along with a million other tracks form otheres here at MJ's over the last few months. Great sounding track and great vocal performance. For me the track is a bit too "Queen" sounding, but what you do with the backing vocals and the variety throughout is captivating. It's a sprawling mass of a thing that actually ends up sounding like something the Flaming Lips might do. Don't really know what to say - there's so much happening and going on, but it has that sheen of quality that we expect from you.

Cheeers,
Phil

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echoroom	echoroom said 3769 days ago (August 23rd, 2008)
	I will rock you! Thanks Phil - the Queen thing wasnt intentional, it just turned out that way! Check out my latest song called Light Sleeper

rabittwhole	rabittwhole said 3774 days ago (August 18th, 2008)
	wow ... no really .. wow Check out my latest song called FloydianSlip2

segiperkasa	segiperkasa said 3664 days ago (December 7th, 2008)
	cool song cool song... remind me of Morten Hacket from Aha... Check out my latest song called Time to Let Go

Hickling_Stan	Hickling_Stan said 3224 days ago (February 19th, 2010)
	Strong song It sort of pulverizes you back against the wall. Must be those hand claps!! Like it. Mark Check out my latest song called Boy in the photograph

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