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Black Star (MJ Live Aid w/jgurner)

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Our entry for the MJ Live Aid Challenge. Coming in just under the wire at 11:59 on Sunday night. Hope Mr. Geldof is still awake! More song page completion in the morning when my brain isn't so tired.

In the meantime, please have fun playing spot the 80's Song References (tm). I'm so happy to finally get to work with Joe. He's one of my best friends in the whole world and it seems crazy that this is the first time in three years we've managed to do a project together.

However, if he ever makes me mix Adam Ant Drums (tm) again, I will have to do him a bodily injury.
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He went away
but promised he'd return
more fool me
because he said the same to her

He walks alone
pockets full of birds
I wear them around my neck
their wings become a shawl

Black star falling from the sky
this is what a heart looks like when it dies.

Only he and I
mean anything to me.
His warm hands on my body,
the way he breathes my name.

The ice grows thicker
on the window pane
the daylight brings
a cold, empty silence
and a cold grey sky,
and a black star,

Black star falling from the sky
this is what a heart looks like when it dies.
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Uploaded: Jun 16, 2008 - 02:00:33 AM
Last Updated: Jun 16, 2008 - 02:00:33 AM Last Played: Jul 21, 2019 - 01:15:22 AM
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Joe: MacBook, Les Paul, Yamaha 5-string bass, M-Audio Keystation 49e, M-Audio Mobile Pre

Lisa: Rode Nt-1a running into my completely awesome brand-new Presonus FIREBOX (and I want to marry it!!!!) Sony MDR-7506's and Event ALP monitors for mixing.
Garage Band, Logic Studio
jiguma said 4145 days ago (June 16th, 2008)
Ummm - I spotted the Adam Ant reference :)
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ledebutant said 4145 days ago (June 16th, 2008)
Impressive 80's-spotting abilities. ;)
I think it's the headband.

BTW, this is the first vocal I've done with my new interface since the death of the Behringer, Neil. It's really worth the dosh, Neil. I'd never go back. I feel as though I'm really getting my money's worth out of my Rode now, too. This song may not be the best demo because of the piles of period-authentic reverb I had to slam on top of the vocals, but the signal is so much better and has lost all that sibilance I was getting before. It's also completely noise-free. (You must get one!)

Anyone who is waiting for vocals from me can now rest easy that they will be coming now that I have an interface again and have met this deadline. Yay!
The Infinites said 4145 days ago (June 16th, 2008)
Double drumming is so A&TAs
Great intro - guitar is clean and clear over the cool rhythm section.

Lisa - your voice almost has a European feel, maybe like English isn't your first language kinda accent. It's different for you. You guys sound like you might have headlined the gig - then we all join you on stage for Let Be or something of that ilk...!

Really great song. Well produced - nice effects. Subtle & smooth, with a hint of menace at the spoken part.

5 string bass - how cool is that?!

Love it.

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Feter said 4145 days ago (June 16th, 2008)
Black Star
this is amazing ...great great singing ..what a guitar
work here ..I dunno anything about the 80s here ...but
this sounds incredible ..the drums pattern just so so
authnetic ..as the bass made all the back beat boomins
this i sterrific my freind wonderfull colab ,...more
more ....Thnx for sharin !!!!!!!!!
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HenriROGERsoloandbands said 4145 days ago (June 16th, 2008)

The chord progression is quite classic , creating
an interesting vocal melody like you did over it, is great .
The sounds of the backing and the playing are very good .

said 4145 days ago (June 16th, 2008)
Really gorgeous. Your vocals are shining beautifully over the great sound bed. Amazing guitar work and backing drums.... Your vocals are really fine, one of the bests ever heard! I love it.

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Ed Hannifin said 4145 days ago (June 16th, 2008)
I love the lyrics...
Yes, I do.

I also love the chiming, slightly distorted guitars and the about-to-tip-over drums... And the vocal, can't forget the vocal...

Congratulations on the Presonus.... And on a fine collab...

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zallaz01 said 4144 days ago (June 16th, 2008)
and the crowd goes wild!!!
I was seriously expecting crowd noise at the end of the track, it drew me in so much, it sounded 'live', cool stuff!
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drakonis said 4144 days ago (June 16th, 2008)
Mmm... nice dark depressing lyrics, sung with gritty abandon... love Joe's guitar work, really fits... and Lisa, your singing is quite different from your usual fare, more languid... not sure if I like it better, because, although it seems a bit more powerful, it also sounds more "mainstream", and you begins to lose your "ledeb" characteristic charisma. Hmm... I really like the lyrics and feeling of hopelessness this brings, the music is wonderful, great mixing job! Love my (saffire) firewire interface too.
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guitapick said 4144 days ago (June 16th, 2008)
Fine craftwork...
...in sound...the whole tune...love the chorus...
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Peter Bauckham said 4144 days ago (June 16th, 2008)
you're in fine vocal - that new interface/Rode combination sounds fabulous. Love the song - and Joe's guitar sounds are terrific - I was never really in to Adam and The Ants - but always liked the tribal drumming!

Excellent post you two!

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aclarke said 4144 days ago (June 16th, 2008)
A different sounding Lisa
Oh how I love these harmonies.... and that chorus just sends shivers up my spine. Your lyrics are so poetic and descriptive... and I'm somewhat jealous. Love that you let loose to some degree with that great sounding voice!

Joe- this is a very cool, driving beat. Guitar was perfect for this... really excellent all the way around. (downloaded too!)

Great collab, you two!
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Jim Bouchard said 4144 days ago (June 16th, 2008)
Vocals certainly sound fantastic. I'm not sure about the Adam Ant Drums, they sound sort of like Adam Ant Paintcans to me. Not the most fantastic drum sound, iow. Maybe a call into PV would have been warranted. Love the clarity of the guitar lead!
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ledebutant said 4142 days ago (June 18th, 2008)
Yeah, the drum sound is something I really struggled with. Joe crafted a very specific Adam Ant-style sound for the drums, but it required boosting a lot of the frequency ranges by about 12dB, which, for me, made getting the levels really tough and also made it hard to get room for the other instruments. I worked hard with EQ to get space for everything, but I can hear now that even though I tried to keep the snare bright, that it didn't work out. If I hadn't been trying to post this before the Sunday night deadline, I would have massaged them a bit longer.

Few people know this, but Adam Ant went in to the paint business after his star faded. Or was that prison?
dajama said 4144 days ago (June 16th, 2008)
The drums work very well, I think, and the vocal is outstanding. Great dark, lyrical picture you've painted, and brilliantly complemented by the guitar. Joe, you set this on fire with that guitar! The mood is very 80s - moody and cool and sure of itself. Magnificent job. Nicely done to both of you. Kudos. Peace.
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ledebutant said 4142 days ago (June 18th, 2008)
Thanks, David. Glad the paint cans are doing it for you, :)
Vic Holman said 4144 days ago (June 16th, 2008)
I've been wondering for some time
when the 2 of you would get a tune out together. This is really nice!

Joseph's style is very self evident... and of course since he's an 80's guy, this makes for a natural set up.

Great vocals Lisa, that should go without saying. The chorus really blows me away!
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ledebutant said 4142 days ago (June 18th, 2008)
Really you were wondering? I hadn't realized people here knew what good friends Joe and I are, but I'm happy people do. It's definitely a natural set-up. I'd say a good 15-20% of my conversations of Joe are centered around 80's pop-culture. The other day he called me from a little trip he'd taken over to Memphis, all giddy and said, "You will never guess what just came out on DVD!" and my brain's computer banks did a little calculating and blurted out "Square Pegs?!?" before he could even tell me. And then we did squealing. We're dorks.
lavalamp said 4143 days ago (June 17th, 2008)
Great feel
Really cool intro. Your voice nice as ever. Interesting change in direction. That's what I like, you mix up your styles often.

Very cool song,

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ledebutant said 4142 days ago (June 18th, 2008)
Thanks, David. Joe's cool music really pushed me in a new direction this time and it was a lot of fun.
egobandit said 4143 days ago (June 17th, 2008)
black star
I like the singing alot the firebox sound very cool. I dont know about the 80's but there is a song by genesis called more fool me.. Enjoyed thanks
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ledebutant said 4142 days ago (June 18th, 2008)
I hadn't thought of that, but you're right, Tim. So, an extra reference, then.

VicDiesel said 4143 days ago (June 18th, 2008)
This has a grand design to it that drags the listener along on a stream of music. Good stuff. Sweeping vocals, sweeping guitars.

That said, I hope you didn't open your set with this. It kinda takes its sweet time to get going. The guitar solo that start at 0:25 has a meandering, Jerry Garcia quality that is great if you have 4 hours to yourself, but not if you only have a short set in a multi-artist event.

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ledebutant said 4142 days ago (June 18th, 2008)
Jam Band
We had to go this route, Vic, it was our only hit (in Romania) and our guitar player is Geldof's cousin, so he had us by the business end of our trousers. :-)

I'm glad you liked the song.

said 4142 days ago (June 18th, 2008)
Funny thing...
..During the 80's I HATED 80's music. Now that we're in the 21st century I find much of it VERY appealing!

This is a wonderful throw-back to that era. Love your vocal as always, and the guitar riffing over those doubled drums is simply excellent...soooo atmospheric!

A new classic this!

be well friends!
bud said 4142 days ago (June 18th, 2008)
Great track - excellent vocals
guitars - bass - drums and production. Did I leave anything out? I hear Siouxie and the Banshees a bit - and I love it.

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cthayes said 4142 days ago (June 18th, 2008)
I hear some U2 and Cure in there. Great job guys...and nice, emotional vocal!
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rsorensen said 4142 days ago (June 18th, 2008)
love it
cool song. quite unorthodox, but good unorthodox if that makes sense :)
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mikkinylund said 4141 days ago (June 19th, 2008)
This is great!
Without mentioning any particular references; they're all there... The vocals are impressive to say the least, and lyrics fits the concept of the song. The bass and guitars are also very, very well constructed and performed. This is to me one of my favorites posted at MACJAM's. I would do the drums deeper sounding, that's the only thing I could see change. Thank you!
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gregd said 4141 days ago (June 19th, 2008)
Adam Ant's Paint Cans
I don't know, I think that paint-can drums were kind of the punk-new wave aesthetic. It works to my ear. This has a Blondie or synthy Cranberries feel to me. It's catchy for sure.

The spoken interlude sounds a little hot in the mix to me, but otherwise it fits nicely in the tune. The whole instrumental sounds a little bit murky (perhaps it's that "period-authenic reverb?), but that goes with the paint can aesthetic, I think. It all works well together.

I like hearing how you can go from punk to electro-dub-hip-hop to new wave to.... It's totally cool.

Another keeper.
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dolby said 4141 days ago (June 20th, 2008)
It certainly sounds...
...very 80's! Like about a million 7" singles I've got filed away in boxes in my mums attic. There's a raw punk/new wave feel to this and your voice is a bit Souxie & them Banshees, I think. Funny how we can now use all this modern technology to make songs that sound like they were recorded in shoe boxes (like the original new wave records were!)

p.s. I like your voice on this - it's great that you try different styles - neat, neat, neat!

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illuminati said 4139 days ago (June 21st, 2008)
Love that Firebox!
Hope the courtship is still going great. This song really reminds me of an 80s band, though I can't for the life of me pin it down. Maybe I'm making it up and you and jiguma just recreated the 80s (despite the warnings of the particle physics community and several court injunctions). The drums do distract me some, not because of the sound so much as a quirk of the rhythm. There's a lurch in there that stands out, especially when it's a feature. Lisa, your voice at the end is scary haunting and full sounding. I can't fail to mention the guitar work as it is solid throughout, reminding me of Bernard Butler of Suede (who have a song called Black Star if I'm not mistaken, also.
lengold said 4139 days ago (June 22nd, 2008)
Very inspired
collaboration - great sounds and vocals.

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said 4129 days ago (July 1st, 2008)
Black Star
This is my first vsit to your song pages and I know it will not be my last.
This is amazing music and you also have an amazing voice.
Thank you for sharing your fantastic music.

Peace Dee.
said 4129 days ago (July 1st, 2008)
oh forgot!
And all credit to Joe too. An amazing collab.
renecalvo said 4127 days ago (July 4th, 2008)
compared to you the poets seem lazy.
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ledebutant said 4126 days ago (July 4th, 2008)
Interesting, because I thought I'd bought these lyrics at an 80's cheese shop. :-)
dirigent said 4124 days ago (July 7th, 2008)
Black Star
Awesome vocals, great arrangement. Superb almost epic track, fantastic sound, I love it! Bravissimi !!!
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Estella said 4123 days ago (July 7th, 2008)
what a vocal performance, Lisa! And Joe, wow great guitar work (not that I have much to say in that department).

Packed with a lot of emotion. Can't go wrong with that. I love it!
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paul f. page said 4091 days ago (August 8th, 2008)
just to..
...add my two cents to all of the other comments (which I generally share):
1)Vocals are wonderful; harmony is, well, stunning, and used judiciously to great effect. (One crit: difficult to understand what you are saying without the lyric sheet.
2)the band is very hot, percussion being superb...as are the lead guitar fills.
You've got a powerful song here that is recorded well and that maintains an integrity of structure from the first to the last note. Glad I heard this...and thank you for sharing it.

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ledebutant said 4091 days ago (August 8th, 2008)
...add my two cents to all of the other comments (which I generally share):
Thanks, Paul for the positive words and the constructive criticism, too. I agree with you about the audibility of the vocals. This is the first song I'd recorded with my new firewire interface and I realized a few weeks after recording this that when I had plugged my mic back in and gotten everything set back up again, that I had put my mic into the stand backwards and was singing into the wrong side (I have a Rode Nt-1a which does have a right and wrong side). It explained why I had such a terrible time mixing these vocals, as well as why they're not so clear. I'd really love to re-record this some time now that I've figured out the problem.

So, you're absolutely right. There was an issue with that vocal track. I'm happy you liked the harmonies because that's an area where I typically struggle. Thanks!
Pete_NB said 4088 days ago (August 11th, 2008)
Great song Lisa. Forlorn and wailing. Excellent production as per usual and good interplay between the vocal lines in the chorus.

My only nitpick is at the very end when the guitar does the buildup. The vocals almost sound nonchalant compared to the accompanying intensity. Of course, that's just opinion and I could be missing something that you were shooting for artistically there.
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caroline said 4088 days ago (August 12th, 2008)
prince charming he wasn't!!!
a very appropriate song for me today lisa - thank you for your wit and talent - thank goodness you and joe finally got a collab - you'll be welcome in my garden anytime - i'm serving green tea at the table!! big loves xoxo
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ledebutant said 4086 days ago (August 13th, 2008)
Aww Caroline
It breaks my heart to think of your heart falling from the sky. Tell me where he is and I'll go and kick him with pointy shoes.
saymme said 4051 days ago (September 17th, 2008)
( :
You sound SO cool Lisa !!! KUDOS to You Both !!!!! TX : )
jie said 4042 days ago (September 26th, 2008)
thanks for bringing back memories of the eighties when i had more hair{ ah the mullet} nice song well produced and sang etc. thanks for sharing
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 4022 days ago (October 17th, 2008)
Makes me recall...
... All About Eve - slightly gothic feel, super vocals remind me of Julianne Regan at her best. The mix is spot on and I love the paint cans. So many layers, so much going on yet all in its place.
One for my iPod.
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Drew Kopr said 4002 days ago (November 5th, 2008)
I love the guitar sound! Great vocals as always. Excellent production and writing.
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musicmitigation said 3977 days ago (December 1st, 2008)
Good stuff
It has a Mono in VCF quality to it, nice. Your hip hop song is cool too. Enjoyable music too listen too.
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blindsidedpoets said 3835 days ago (April 21st, 2009)
Black Star
I came here as your setup of mic/presonus/vocal style was said to be similar to ours (my daughter for the vocal part :) ). But what a surprise to hear this. Wonderful song, fantastic vocals!
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rustykangaroo said 3691 days ago (September 13th, 2009)
great job!!
great vocals.. very slick, very professional. i like these lyrics... your vocal talking part is great as well...1,000 cool points for you!! i do the best i can as a vocalist, but never feel comfortable enough to pull it off. i can tell from your posts like "boy candy" as well as this one that coolness is not a problem for you to channel!! ha,ha! this is a very solid tune from top to bottom..great job!!
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ramonaji said 3660 days ago (October 14th, 2009)
someone had you...
as a favorite artist so I decided to have a listen!

Great stuff!!! Love it!
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magnatone said 3658 days ago (October 15th, 2009)
Black Star
LOL - so i just was leaving a comment on Romana's new song, and saw that you had commented on it. i was thinking - "ooh wow, does she have a new song??" so i clicked on the link it now automatically leaves of your most recent upload, and ended up here, in 2008!!! so, this is, of course EXCELLENT, and your voice is just extraordinary! you really were stepping back from MJ about the time i was arriving, so i haven't gotten to hear very much of you in my time here, but i remain ever hopeful you'll start doing music again here sometime! i doubt you'll see this comment - lol - but, this sure was a great song!
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ledebutant said 3657 days ago (October 16th, 2009)
I love you
Thanks to the magic of email notifications I did see the comment, Karen (we should really have coffee some time) and I'm so glad you took the time to say you enjoyed it. I am trying so hard to eke out time to do music right now and it is on my mind every day. I actually had Logic open working on something a couple of days ago, so who knows?

You're such a generous person, thanks again for commenting on my oldie!
segiperkasa said 3563 days ago (January 19th, 2010)
really cool song...
really cool... sound of the 80's ....
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