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This is another track where i tried to concentrate on the rhythm and not a lead. There are a lot of guitars on this, but i am hearing a muddy mix, i have tried to separate out via panning and EQ the various parts but still does not sound right to me. This has quite a simple structure and was written with vocals in mind. The very kind and talented Ramona helped me out once again with her powerful voice, however we lost a few parts on the way? As usual i have lost the ability to think of anything else to do to this track to make it sound a bit better, so if you can help out by offering any help i would be most grateful. The only loops were the drums. Thanks.
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Skean said 3822 days ago (May 3rd, 2009)
Nice guitar work, Ramona is excellent in there.... I dig... Cheers
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chronologic said 3822 days ago (May 3rd, 2009)
No worries
Very cool work. I like the lead guitar melodies and they way they work with the backing tracks. The soft touch on the vocals is a cool way to front the otherwise intense stuff. It actually makes it more viable... I mean in the way that too much intensity can sometimes just hit the senses these days and shut down the inputs. The more careful vibe on this actually GETS attention! Funny how that works. I am not sure what you could "do" to make this better. I'd really have to put a lot of thought into that, and whatever I came up with would probably be forced and useless anyway. I didn't hear a "muddy" mix on my first listen. Rather what I would call an "ambient" mix -- which is actually good for this arrangement IMO.
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Z293 said 3822 days ago (May 3rd, 2009)
Very Powerful...
Song you have here and usually when you lose the ability to think of anything else to do it means you have finished and I would say this is a well finished project.
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Nick_Flash said 3822 days ago (May 3rd, 2009)
really cool
I loved it, It has a very dark feel to it and kinda reminds me of older Stabbing Westward. Good stuff guys.
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Reggie_Pole said 3822 days ago (May 3rd, 2009)
The shamen style ...
or maybe the tokai/Ramona style. As chronologic says, her vocals add balance to the heaviness of the music. 'Hooks' might be the wrong word to use for a heavy tune like this, but it's full of guitar riffish hooks, as I've come to expect for a tokai tune. Lots of nice touches here, like the openness around 1:45, the successive layering of the guitar in various places, to build the intensity, the funky dance red herring beginning, the crying synths in the distance. Ramona knocks me out, as always. What a perfect pairing. I hope that particular well is deep. One last comment: I listened to this four times so far, and it sounded better each time. For me, that's always a sign of success. More please.
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Feter said 3822 days ago (May 3rd, 2009)
Wo ..really ? this is cool to take Ramona vocal into this category ...
just great guitar work ...and arrangement ...super collab ....kudos ...
thnx alot for sharin !!!!
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yrp said 3822 days ago (May 3rd, 2009)
Curve is back!
Do you guys know Curve? An english due active during the 90´s which mixed electronics with heavy guitars?
They were one of my favorite bands back in the day.
You sound as good as anything they did.
Thanks for the great song and the memories!
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yrp said 3816 days ago (May 9th, 2009)
I meant Duo instead of due
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thoddi said 3822 days ago (May 3rd, 2009)
It's a tight groove with tasty guitars saturating the wall of sound. I like the sassy vox from ramona — fits the mood of the song very well.

If you'd like an idea to add a contrast or something to brake open the wall... Maybe have a bridge with a very direct and clear acoustic solo... supported by a grand piano or such, leaving the drums out for a while... and then switching back in again.

Cool stuff:)
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ktb said 3822 days ago (May 3rd, 2009)
it grows
Steve, I gotta tell ya, what I enjoy most about your music. Is that it starts strong and then continues to mushroom into an orgy of sound. Ramona, sounds incredible. Wow, simply wow dude.
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Willywagga said 3822 days ago (May 3rd, 2009)
Great Drama
When she sings "don't you know why" the song lifts off this is the heart and hook of the song, nothing like being asked a question menacingly by a beautiful woman, I think you should work more on this aspect of the song.
The sound wall is brilliant and enormous and works very well, bloody rather than muddy me thinks.
Love it.

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bud said 3821 days ago (May 3rd, 2009)
Great development
really grows as it goes. Fine mix to these ears - but then I don't know what's missing I just dig what I'm hearing. I think you play the stereo field very well and not too heavy handed. Ramona sounds great as usual. Fine collab.
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egobandit said 3821 days ago (May 3rd, 2009)
I think
what you mean is the guitars and the changes along with the bass should hold more weight but it is very slight. Did you try to master mix the EQ sometimes that helps, also less compression is better. Im sure there are some on this site that can help you more than me. I really enjoyed this mixture you have between the guitar the drums and also Ramona's singng it sounds alot like the band Garbage. Very cool!
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LunaTrick said 3821 days ago (May 3rd, 2009)
Top Production...
Great song... love the beat and guitars... and this genre is really suited for Ramona. Good work all!
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ramonaji said 3821 days ago (May 4th, 2009)
Thank you everybody and Steve!
What a great community, so supportive! Thank you so much for your comments!
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lengold said 3821 days ago (May 4th, 2009)
I am
hearing a great mix - this is wonderful Steve. Ramona's contribution is also spot on, reminds me a lot of Grace Jones (a big compliment in my book).
Definite download. I will enjoy listening to this many times.

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guygrooves said 3820 days ago (May 4th, 2009)
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Vic Holman said 3819 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
i dig the wall
really big massive sound. a nice variety of guitars. i also dig the electronic beat used instead of traditional big drums normally heard in heavy metal. Ramona's vocals give a cool contrast.

i don't know if this will help much. but normally i will put a high pass filter on the guitars and set the frequency around 270. that cuts out some lower end and defines the guitar sound with more attack. bass wise i add a low cut filter set to cut off at 76. that's kind of the short end of it for starters
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maxjsl37 said 3819 days ago (May 6th, 2009)
Your at it Again
Jane's Addiction comes to mind here. Steve I have always admired your work and have been a big fan. Love the techno feel but you didn't over do it. The mix is a little muddy but I think it adds texture and mood to the song. The worst thing you can do is get to over critical of your music. Ramona sounds great as always. Great job! Needs REAL drums! (You know I had to throw that one in!) LOL. Take care. J
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davisamerica said 3818 days ago (May 7th, 2009)
excellent ... steve and ramona ...just brilliant guys
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tokai said 3818 days ago (May 7th, 2009)
Thank you so much everyone for taking a listen and commenting, sorry this time i won't get back to all of you, you know how it is? I have made another mix and ironed out so of the high end and it all sits a bit better. As always this is up for anyone that want to jam on something or even try a remix. KTB is having i go. Cheers Ramona once again thanks for your support and we will do another track at some point i hope. Cheers.
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borisluxx said 3817 days ago (May 8th, 2009)
Awesome track, you two! Ramona is a true pleasure to work with. She is so versatile; she is like a musical chameleon! Great music and great vox! Congrats! Favd!

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Calchas said 3817 days ago (May 8th, 2009)
Great collab Steve!
Wow...Ramona really adds some spooky depth to this metal fest. Good choice man.

Like Bud, I have no problem with this mix. But I'm such a greenhorn at the technical aspect of things...

Be well friend!
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Giusepppe said 3796 days ago (May 29th, 2009)
winding and sensual
it sounds well winding and sensual, to enjoy the fire
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Damroze said 3793 days ago (June 1st, 2009)
Dark and Sexy..
The Goth siren calls men to destruction on the rocks of their own lust as the driving machine funk/tribal stew at the bottom of the pot bubbles and they are flogged by the merciless grind of the guitar.
- or something like that. DL
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strangedream said 3255 days ago (November 21st, 2010)
This is hot! Did you write these lyrics? I don't download a whole bunch off of here, but I've got to have this. I'm instantly obsessed. Wow.
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